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Free agency, NIL and Josef Martinez

Free agency, NIL and Josef Martinez

Braves free agency, fried and Duvall.  Did we expect anything more?
 
Players decommitting due to NIL.  Do players have too much power?
The Couch Spot
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With the Atlanta Hawks finally healthy and all that’s happened in the front o...

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The Couch Potato Sports Report

Braves free agency, fried and Duvall.  Did we expect anything more?

 

Players decommitting due to NIL.  Do players have too much power?

The Couch Spot

NFL playoff picture

 

With the Atlanta Hawks finally healthy and all that’s happened in the front office can they win consistently?

 

MO’s Timeout 

 

Josef  Martinez is leaving. How will that change the Atlanta United franchise? 

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1 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:19,680 Mo: I'm back here with T-Bird and now other. 2 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:20,380 Got og. 3 00:00:20,490 --> 00:00:21,540 Good evening gentlemen. 4 00:00:21,540 --> 00:00:22,170 She's back. 5 00:00:22,170 --> 00:00:23,100 Good evening Mo. 6 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:24,210 Did y'all, did y'all miss me? 7 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:26,850 Did I think you did was a little different last week. 8 00:00:28,500 --> 00:00:29,340 , you're just saying that 9 00:00:30,150 --> 00:00:32,009 Other Guy: T-Bird was on his best behavior, so 10 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:34,080 Commercial: Oh really? 11 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:34,380 Now? 12 00:00:35,330 --> 00:00:38,010 No fumes coming out of his ears or no? 13 00:00:38,070 --> 00:00:39,870 Well, we played nice in the sandbox. 14 00:00:40,160 --> 00:00:40,280 Hmm. 15 00:00:40,790 --> 00:00:42,810 It's been a brown liquor kind of evening. 16 00:00:43,470 --> 00:00:44,160 this week though. 17 00:00:44,670 --> 00:00:44,970 Yeah. 18 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:45,510 Uhoh. 19 00:00:45,870 --> 00:00:46,170 Yeah. 20 00:00:47,940 --> 00:00:51,600 All right guys, just let's start off talking a little Braves, um, free agency. 21 00:00:52,095 --> 00:00:53,115 Lot of transactions. 22 00:00:53,115 --> 00:00:55,315 I'm seeing a lot of minor league contracts. 23 00:00:55,315 --> 00:00:57,555 We, we lost some, some big names. 24 00:00:57,555 --> 00:01:00,465 We gained a couple of what we hope are gonna be big names. 25 00:01:01,004 --> 00:01:02,685 What do you think Ti Berle, are you impressed? 26 00:01:02,685 --> 00:01:03,555 Are they done? 27 00:01:03,644 --> 00:01:06,495 I mean, what does this mean for the upcoming year? 28 00:01:06,765 --> 00:01:07,664 T-Bird: I, you know what? 29 00:01:07,670 --> 00:01:13,065 I was looking at our lineup and, uh, I, I, I just gotta see him play. 30 00:01:13,215 --> 00:01:18,615 I mean, when, when you take Dansby out, um, I don't know 31 00:01:18,615 --> 00:01:20,055 what we're gonna get from grm. 32 00:01:20,205 --> 00:01:24,075 You know, I, I, I just, you know how you can go in with your, uh, 33 00:01:24,104 --> 00:01:26,475 with your ball team and have a feel? 34 00:01:26,475 --> 00:01:26,895 Mm-hmm. 35 00:01:27,225 --> 00:01:29,085 , I really don't have a feel right now. 36 00:01:29,265 --> 00:01:32,115 Uh, I'm just gonna have to wait and see. 37 00:01:32,175 --> 00:01:35,055 Uh, you know, we lost Adam Duval to Boston. 38 00:01:35,265 --> 00:01:35,354 Mm-hmm. 39 00:01:35,685 --> 00:01:39,075 , I don't know why we didn't give him a, a one year deal for $7 million. 40 00:01:39,134 --> 00:01:39,375 Yeah. 41 00:01:39,825 --> 00:01:46,545 Uh, I, when he's healthy, OGs shaking his head, but when he's healthy, Adam Duval. 42 00:01:46,545 --> 00:01:47,625 I think he's a good player. 43 00:01:47,625 --> 00:01:49,964 If not his, he's a gold glove outfield. 44 00:01:50,145 --> 00:01:50,414 Yeah. 45 00:01:50,535 --> 00:01:51,494 Now look at what you got. 46 00:01:51,494 --> 00:01:54,554 You got Eddie Rosario and you got Marcella Lazu. 47 00:01:55,845 --> 00:01:59,294 Which one you, you'd rather keep him two over Adam Duval? 48 00:01:59,565 --> 00:01:59,955 Yeah. 49 00:02:00,435 --> 00:02:01,095 Yeah, I would. 50 00:02:01,185 --> 00:02:01,395 That's 51 00:02:01,399 --> 00:02:04,634 Commercial: because you are nut . Well, we got Sean Murphy, 52 00:02:04,955 --> 00:02:07,905 um, one a gold glove in 2021. 53 00:02:07,905 --> 00:02:08,655 So he 54 00:02:08,655 --> 00:02:13,215 T-Bird: gonna spot, uh, I really think they'll, they got to try 55 00:02:13,215 --> 00:02:15,375 to move a zuna some kinda way. 56 00:02:15,435 --> 00:02:16,035 I don't know. 57 00:02:16,365 --> 00:02:17,445 You think that's a good idea? 58 00:02:18,435 --> 00:02:21,135 Uh, I think this is my feeling on that. 59 00:02:21,140 --> 00:02:21,765 O G M C. 60 00:02:21,765 --> 00:02:22,425 What you think? 61 00:02:23,415 --> 00:02:27,855 I think he plays, uh, or they keep him midway through the season. 62 00:02:27,855 --> 00:02:30,685 They try to get him move and just eat the rest of his contract. 63 00:02:32,055 --> 00:02:33,195 Other Guy: Yeah, that makes sense. 64 00:02:33,345 --> 00:02:34,245 I, I can see that. 65 00:02:34,484 --> 00:02:34,785 I can 66 00:02:34,785 --> 00:02:38,175 T-Bird: see that because he's not, he's not giving you nothing. 67 00:02:38,180 --> 00:02:42,675 Now, if he gets off tour or tear, then, you know, of course that changes things. 68 00:02:42,675 --> 00:02:44,355 But if he up there. 69 00:02:45,315 --> 00:02:48,945 Uh, uh, swatting flies like he was last summer. 70 00:02:49,325 --> 00:02:51,645 You know, I mean, how you gonna get him in the game? 71 00:02:52,065 --> 00:02:55,845 Because you got, uh, Rosario, they hoping he gonna be the Rosario of old. 72 00:02:56,085 --> 00:03:00,525 Then you got the Shawn Murphy kid, you know, they signed them to a big deal. 73 00:03:00,525 --> 00:03:03,975 So even eventually that's gonna be his left field's job. 74 00:03:03,975 --> 00:03:04,395 Right? 75 00:03:05,235 --> 00:03:05,535 Other Guy: Yeah. 76 00:03:06,185 --> 00:03:12,045 I, I, I, overall, I feel like the Braves have, have, have gone the 77 00:03:12,045 --> 00:03:15,615 budget route and we've lost more big names than we've brought in. 78 00:03:16,095 --> 00:03:19,065 You know, we got all these little, you know, names you've never heard 79 00:03:19,065 --> 00:03:23,115 of, and, and we got Sean Murphy, that's the one, somewhat notable 80 00:03:23,115 --> 00:03:25,395 name, but, and we lost Dansby. 81 00:03:25,395 --> 00:03:29,025 Freed, you know, devolve for, for, to some extent, like all, all these 82 00:03:29,030 --> 00:03:31,155 name players, we still got freed now. 83 00:03:32,235 --> 00:03:33,105 Oh, I, I thought 84 00:03:33,105 --> 00:03:33,705 T-Bird: he was gone. 85 00:03:33,735 --> 00:03:34,635 Nah, he's not gone. 86 00:03:34,935 --> 00:03:35,355 Oh. 87 00:03:35,475 --> 00:03:36,945 He's just gonna be in arbitration. 88 00:03:38,250 --> 00:03:40,890 And he probably gonna be gone when it's time to sign him. 89 00:03:41,100 --> 00:03:41,220 . Okay. 90 00:03:41,220 --> 00:03:42,619 Because we probably ain't gonna 91 00:03:42,619 --> 00:03:43,019 Other Guy: keep him. 92 00:03:43,019 --> 00:03:44,399 Maybe I'll jump the gun a little bit. 93 00:03:44,399 --> 00:03:47,850 I I just, I don't expect fried to stay right. 94 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:52,589 Um, I, I just, I don't think we're going the Braves are, are in that mindset. 95 00:03:52,589 --> 00:03:57,660 We just, we're just selling off our assets and, and just, you know, just 96 00:03:57,839 --> 00:03:58,679 T-Bird: going budget friendly. 97 00:03:58,739 --> 00:03:59,160 I feel the 98 00:03:59,160 --> 00:03:59,609 Commercial: same way. 99 00:03:59,609 --> 00:04:05,190 I don't know why in this mix, you know, of of, of losing some key pieces. 100 00:04:05,700 --> 00:04:08,820 Um, Braves gave away their top pitching prospect. 101 00:04:08,820 --> 00:04:11,370 I mean, I know that's kind of part of the game. 102 00:04:11,489 --> 00:04:15,540 Um, but do we really wanna go start going down that road? 103 00:04:15,540 --> 00:04:19,200 I mean, we know the Braves are kind of built their bread and butter on 104 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:22,710 that farm system and so, well the farm 105 00:04:23,159 --> 00:04:24,360 T-Bird: farm system is. 106 00:04:25,530 --> 00:04:26,490 Dilapidated. 107 00:04:26,490 --> 00:04:27,660 Now did I say that right? 108 00:04:27,750 --> 00:04:28,200 Sure. 109 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:31,080 We used to have the best form system in baseball. 110 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:36,060 Of course, you know, when you win and you trying to stay up there, you going to 111 00:04:36,060 --> 00:04:40,590 lose some people from trades and whatnot, but they gotta build that back up. 112 00:04:40,590 --> 00:04:48,150 But at the same time, it's if, if max free plays well and you don't sign him, I, I 113 00:04:48,150 --> 00:04:50,160 don't understand what the strategy is. 114 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:57,780 I mean, you, you trying to keep your team intact, but we losing key people and it 115 00:04:57,780 --> 00:05:02,460 is not only the physical part aspect, it's the mental part that these guys bring. 116 00:05:03,180 --> 00:05:06,270 So, you know, we gonna have Vaughn charism at short style. 117 00:05:06,765 --> 00:05:08,534 Yeah, he played great. 118 00:05:08,534 --> 00:05:13,994 He, he seems to be in that mode, but we going to see, so if, if, you 119 00:05:13,994 --> 00:05:19,155 know, we might be eating crow or, or AA might be eating crow if, if he 120 00:05:19,155 --> 00:05:21,135 not giving us what we feel like we 121 00:05:21,135 --> 00:05:23,684 Commercial: oughta have, well he hit 2 91 and had our own base 122 00:05:23,690 --> 00:05:25,695 precision July eight, um, 800. 123 00:05:25,695 --> 00:05:29,025 So it's, it's, there's certainly, you know, room to grow. 124 00:05:29,025 --> 00:05:32,594 But also I guess, you know, some, some potential in seeing that. 125 00:05:32,594 --> 00:05:37,065 There definitely could be an upside to this, but my concern is Braves are 126 00:05:37,424 --> 00:05:40,664 kinda getting close to that, uh, luxury tax threshold and you know, they're 127 00:05:40,664 --> 00:05:41,924 not gonna be willing to pay that. 128 00:05:42,284 --> 00:05:44,205 Does that mean that the checkbook writing stops? 129 00:05:46,304 --> 00:05:52,515 T-Bird: You know, I think if you want to win, you, you know, if you got 130 00:05:52,515 --> 00:05:56,594 the money you do like the, like the Yankees, you, I ain't nobody worried 131 00:05:56,594 --> 00:05:58,515 about no luxury tax when I can win. 132 00:05:59,174 --> 00:06:03,585 I mean, I know you gotta stay, your mindset gotta stay 133 00:06:03,585 --> 00:06:04,825 right with the money, but. 134 00:06:05,955 --> 00:06:08,985 I don't think they gonna get, uh, that close to it. 135 00:06:08,985 --> 00:06:10,755 Cause they losing all the big time players, right? 136 00:06:10,755 --> 00:06:11,835 They're demand the most money. 137 00:06:12,315 --> 00:06:16,185 Commercial: Og just paying a luxury tax just seems to fly in the face of the 138 00:06:16,185 --> 00:06:18,885 cash cow system that, you know, Liberty. 139 00:06:18,945 --> 00:06:19,935 Liberty does. 140 00:06:19,940 --> 00:06:20,475 So, 141 00:06:20,925 --> 00:06:23,715 Other Guy: yeah, and, and we, we, we've touched on this before because 142 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:28,305 it's almost like a business owner versus an individual owner and, you 143 00:06:28,305 --> 00:06:29,925 know, look at the Yankees or the Mets. 144 00:06:29,925 --> 00:06:33,345 They just write and break out that checkbook without even a second thought. 145 00:06:33,855 --> 00:06:38,625 And yet, you know, we, we've overhear, you know, doing the, doing the p and 146 00:06:38,625 --> 00:06:44,775 l and the, the budget and I just, yes, we've got seven core players that are 147 00:06:44,775 --> 00:06:46,215 on contract for at least three years. 148 00:06:46,215 --> 00:06:49,215 We've, we've got Austin Riley, Matt Olson, Michael Harris, Spencer 149 00:06:49,215 --> 00:06:51,585 Strider, you know, AYA and Ozzy. 150 00:06:52,395 --> 00:06:58,845 But that's not enough to make a, a true run in the National League. 151 00:06:58,845 --> 00:07:00,495 And, and, and even in the post season. 152 00:07:01,425 --> 00:07:04,935 T-Bird: Well, um, AYA and Ozzy gonna be coming up. 153 00:07:04,965 --> 00:07:07,005 They gonna renegotiate for us all sitting there. 154 00:07:07,005 --> 00:07:10,695 They've got to, and, and so what kind of money there now? 155 00:07:10,695 --> 00:07:16,635 Are you gonna let possibly the best player in baseball when he's right. 156 00:07:16,845 --> 00:07:19,305 Go because you penny pension? 157 00:07:19,905 --> 00:07:20,415 Commercial: Yeah. 158 00:07:20,475 --> 00:07:20,715 Yeah. 159 00:07:20,745 --> 00:07:22,035 They will Do. 160 00:07:22,035 --> 00:07:24,645 We do, we need to count the ways of the players that have, 161 00:07:24,975 --> 00:07:27,495 who deserve, um, to be paid. 162 00:07:27,500 --> 00:07:31,035 But Atlanta just didn't do it. 163 00:07:31,035 --> 00:07:33,225 Didn't get it done, wasn't interested. 164 00:07:33,255 --> 00:07:33,555 A couple 165 00:07:33,555 --> 00:07:36,525 Other Guy: years from now, we're not gonna be able to say half of the 166 00:07:36,585 --> 00:07:40,275 half of the, the players in the NL because they're all former Braves. 167 00:07:40,275 --> 00:07:41,115 Like, like, yeah. 168 00:07:41,175 --> 00:07:45,495 Number five, you know, the Dodgers, now they're all our talents going, 169 00:07:45,495 --> 00:07:49,575 so we're, we're gonna have to, uh, I, I just, I just think it's a mistake. 170 00:07:49,635 --> 00:07:52,515 I mean, they, they say they wanna win, but they do the opposite. 171 00:07:52,755 --> 00:07:53,505 Do the opposite. 172 00:07:53,775 --> 00:07:56,534 T-Bird: I think it when we won a World Series that slipped up on them. 173 00:07:57,225 --> 00:07:57,615 Yeah. 174 00:07:57,825 --> 00:07:58,295 You know, they. 175 00:07:59,055 --> 00:08:02,025 They thought we had a pretty good team, but I didn't think that they 176 00:08:02,025 --> 00:08:03,105 thought we was gonna win the World 177 00:08:03,105 --> 00:08:03,435 Commercial: Series. 178 00:08:03,825 --> 00:08:09,375 I don't think a World Series is ever like on the vision board for Liberty Media. 179 00:08:09,375 --> 00:08:13,485 I think it's just, again, make, make as much money as you can in this 180 00:08:13,485 --> 00:08:16,065 market because you have the interest. 181 00:08:16,125 --> 00:08:19,545 Um, there's really no loss because you, again, you're not 182 00:08:19,715 --> 00:08:21,705 investing too much into the roster. 183 00:08:21,705 --> 00:08:24,645 So just let 'em have fun and whatever happens, happens. 184 00:08:24,645 --> 00:08:26,115 Cuz it's they're coming to the battery. 185 00:08:26,985 --> 00:08:27,495 Yeah, they 186 00:08:27,495 --> 00:08:28,395 T-Bird: coming to the battery. 187 00:08:28,485 --> 00:08:32,444 So, uh, you know, but you gotta give 'em a reason to come to the battery. 188 00:08:32,924 --> 00:08:38,355 So, uh, I, hopefully, hopefully, uh, they'll get bought out by an individual. 189 00:08:38,475 --> 00:08:43,455 You know, they talked about that there was somebody, or somebody was interested 190 00:08:43,455 --> 00:08:43,934 Commercial: in buying. 191 00:08:43,934 --> 00:08:47,535 Do you understand the projected revenue that they could give? 192 00:08:47,535 --> 00:08:48,314 No way. 193 00:08:48,345 --> 00:08:49,064 I don't know. 194 00:08:49,095 --> 00:08:51,825 Jesus could come and say, Hey, I'll buy 'em, and I don't think they'd bite. 195 00:08:53,819 --> 00:08:54,510 I said, Jesus, 196 00:08:55,680 --> 00:08:56,610 T-Bird: I ain't touching that 197 00:08:57,204 --> 00:08:57,449 . Other Guy: Yeah. 198 00:08:57,480 --> 00:08:59,640 I, I don't know if there's enough zeros on the check. 199 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:03,480 I, I think you, I think anybody will listen, but it's, 200 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:04,590 it's a cash cow for them. 201 00:09:04,590 --> 00:09:06,300 So it's going to, it's gonna take a 202 00:09:06,300 --> 00:09:06,630 Commercial: lot. 203 00:09:06,990 --> 00:09:11,819 I think as a fan, it's disappointing because I know in any major sport 204 00:09:11,910 --> 00:09:15,990 free agency, it's kind of like a big deal because again, the potential, the 205 00:09:15,990 --> 00:09:19,860 possibilities, the names that are out there, the value that they could add, 206 00:09:19,860 --> 00:09:22,590 the, the, the seats that they could feel if you were to add 'em to your 207 00:09:22,590 --> 00:09:25,500 team is, is it's, it's, it's a wish. 208 00:09:25,949 --> 00:09:27,510 Um, it's a dream for every fan. 209 00:09:27,515 --> 00:09:32,250 So the fact that year after year, after year, more times than not for 210 00:09:32,250 --> 00:09:35,819 all the Atlanta sports team, there's no big splash, there's no big name. 211 00:09:36,210 --> 00:09:39,300 Um, and even if it is a big name, they're well past their prom. 212 00:09:39,689 --> 00:09:44,010 So it's, it's not like there's anything to really invest in. 213 00:09:44,015 --> 00:09:46,949 And, and I think that that trend is gonna continue, particularly for 214 00:09:46,949 --> 00:09:50,819 baseball and really cause a lot of folks to turn to, I don't know, soccer. 215 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:55,770 T-Bird: Well, they stop buying the jerseys with the favorite player's name on it. 216 00:09:55,770 --> 00:09:57,600 And he's a star in Atlanta for the Braves. 217 00:09:57,600 --> 00:09:58,709 Cause he might not be here. 218 00:09:58,980 --> 00:09:59,310 Right? 219 00:09:59,620 --> 00:10:01,680 I mean, I, I'm an UNA guy. 220 00:10:02,130 --> 00:10:04,189 Please don't run Una guy. 221 00:10:04,189 --> 00:10:05,339 Don't Uhuh. 222 00:10:05,344 --> 00:10:05,790 Commercial: I know. 223 00:10:06,089 --> 00:10:08,130 I'm just saying prepare yourself now. 224 00:10:09,900 --> 00:10:10,560 All right folks. 225 00:10:10,560 --> 00:10:12,089 Y'all stick with us here on the couch Table. 226 00:10:12,089 --> 00:10:12,329 Support. 227 00:10:12,329 --> 00:10:12,750 Support. 228 00:10:13,110 --> 00:10:15,689 When we get back we'll talk a little bit about n I l. 229 00:10:16,439 --> 00:10:17,579 Payers have too much power. 230 00:10:17,579 --> 00:10:18,060 Stick with us. 231 00:10:35,339 --> 00:10:37,829 T-Bird: Hey, this is T-Bird from the Couch Potato Sports Report. 232 00:10:38,339 --> 00:10:42,839 I think about Atlanta sports all the time, but I talk about them every Friday 233 00:10:42,839 --> 00:10:45,699 at 6:00 PM Eastern here on pod game. 234 00:10:46,199 --> 00:10:47,010 Follow the link. 235 00:10:47,699 --> 00:10:51,780 Join myself, Mo, and the other guy as we'll. 236 00:10:51,780 --> 00:10:56,160 Discuss all Atlanta sports from the Braves to the Hawks and 237 00:10:56,160 --> 00:11:00,870 the Falcons, again showing me T-Bird with Mo and the other guy. 238 00:11:00,990 --> 00:11:05,339 Every Friday on 6:00 PM live, the episodes will be available 239 00:11:05,490 --> 00:11:07,319 on Spotify, apple, and wherever 240 00:11:07,324 --> 00:11:07,800 Commercial: you listen. 241 00:11:12,150 --> 00:11:15,120 Producer Dex: Hey, this is Producer Dax with the C Potato Sports Report. 242 00:11:15,599 --> 00:11:18,569 I have so much fun watching these guys talk about sports like they're 243 00:11:18,569 --> 00:11:19,680 sitting around a water cooler. 244 00:11:20,250 --> 00:11:23,250 There are a few things that can compare to sharing your peace of mind 245 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:24,689 about something that you care about. 246 00:11:25,980 --> 00:11:28,140 Have you ever thought about telling the world what you know? 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277 00:13:05,995 --> 00:13:07,885 Yeah, you did, but I, am I missing something? 278 00:13:08,125 --> 00:13:08,425 Yeah. 279 00:13:08,625 --> 00:13:09,115 Yeah. 280 00:13:09,675 --> 00:13:10,495 You miss, you miss a lot. 281 00:13:12,565 --> 00:13:13,495 I love you too, bird. 282 00:13:13,495 --> 00:13:14,155 I missed you. 283 00:13:14,245 --> 00:13:15,205 I missed you so much. 284 00:13:15,205 --> 00:13:15,795 No, you did. 285 00:13:15,825 --> 00:13:16,705 I did, I did. 286 00:13:17,305 --> 00:13:24,505 Yo, so there were like 22, there were like 22, if I'm not mistaken. 287 00:13:24,505 --> 00:13:27,755 22 players from Georgia that entered the transfer portal, right? 288 00:13:28,885 --> 00:13:29,155 T-Bird: Yeah. 289 00:13:29,155 --> 00:13:29,515 Wasn't it? 290 00:13:29,785 --> 00:13:29,935 They 291 00:13:29,935 --> 00:13:30,925 Commercial: rolling out of there? 292 00:13:31,135 --> 00:13:32,825 I mean, you're, you're noticing. 293 00:13:35,085 --> 00:13:38,115 It's just, and I don't know how I feel about this. 294 00:13:38,295 --> 00:13:43,065 These college players are really taking control of their own destinies in terms 295 00:13:43,065 --> 00:13:45,615 of where they play and what they play for. 296 00:13:45,915 --> 00:13:50,775 Um, and I'm sure these Nils are significantly influenced in the allure 297 00:13:51,195 --> 00:13:56,655 of transferring or at least becoming, um, have line in your pockets why you can. 298 00:13:56,655 --> 00:13:57,165 I mean, come on. 299 00:13:57,435 --> 00:14:00,255 There's no guarantee that a lot of these college players will go 300 00:14:00,255 --> 00:14:01,965 to the next level, so why not? 301 00:14:02,295 --> 00:14:06,015 Particularly if you think about a lot of them come from underprivileged, um, 302 00:14:06,015 --> 00:14:10,875 households where, you know, dollar signs, a lot of zeros aren't really promised. 303 00:14:10,875 --> 00:14:11,805 So why not? 304 00:14:11,835 --> 00:14:13,965 I mean, why not make your money og? 305 00:14:13,965 --> 00:14:16,545 I mean, is it, do you think it'll really change the structure of the 306 00:14:16,545 --> 00:14:20,985 game and how it's played and really the motivation for players playing 307 00:14:21,645 --> 00:14:23,325 Other Guy: it, it changes. 308 00:14:24,025 --> 00:14:27,885 A, a, a player's attraction to a specific school. 309 00:14:27,885 --> 00:14:30,765 It, it's, it's, it's a business decision. 310 00:14:30,765 --> 00:14:36,015 It's not for your education or for, you know, the coach or, or anything specific. 311 00:14:36,615 --> 00:14:40,605 And these are young men we're talking about here, like 20, 312 00:14:40,605 --> 00:14:41,805 you know, early twenties. 313 00:14:42,675 --> 00:14:47,444 And they just, if they get benched or if they, they're not the starter and they 314 00:14:47,444 --> 00:14:52,155 throw a hissy fit, they can then trans like, no, I, I just, I think, I think it's 315 00:14:52,155 --> 00:14:57,405 too easy for them to just on a, on a, you know, the, when the wind changes, they 316 00:14:57,405 --> 00:14:59,235 can just change schools just like that. 317 00:14:59,355 --> 00:14:59,474 But 318 00:14:59,474 --> 00:15:02,474 Commercial: think about it, we watched Georgian, that national game and when they 319 00:15:02,474 --> 00:15:09,765 were up by a million to one, they put in backups and those backups looked amazing. 320 00:15:10,214 --> 00:15:13,964 And the writing's on the wall, if you're sitting on the sideline, basically 321 00:15:13,970 --> 00:15:15,495 with Georgia making a statement of. 322 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:16,935 , look who's next. 323 00:15:17,265 --> 00:15:20,595 And you're really not feeling like you're a part of the future, regardless 324 00:15:20,595 --> 00:15:24,105 of the fact that there's a, a chance to repeat again as national champion. 325 00:15:24,105 --> 00:15:27,165 So why not think about yourself? 326 00:15:27,165 --> 00:15:29,625 Is, is this giving the players too much power to Bird? 327 00:15:29,715 --> 00:15:30,105 Yeah. 328 00:15:30,105 --> 00:15:31,935 T-Bird: I, I, of course. 329 00:15:32,265 --> 00:15:37,245 I mean, if remember in the years pass without the n i l money, you stayed. 330 00:15:37,815 --> 00:15:40,425 Okay, now you go. 331 00:15:40,575 --> 00:15:47,775 If, if, if, say if, uh, uh, you or Georgia and, uh, LSU lose a cornerback, okay? 332 00:15:48,015 --> 00:15:50,865 They watched you play in that back row. 333 00:15:50,870 --> 00:15:51,765 You were phenomenal. 334 00:15:51,765 --> 00:15:54,105 They say, we can get that guy. 335 00:15:54,375 --> 00:15:57,915 So they, if they give him the right amount of money, he looking 336 00:15:57,915 --> 00:16:00,945 for, he going, he gonna go because he knows he is going to start. 337 00:16:00,945 --> 00:16:01,905 Now, I don't know, 338 00:16:02,235 --> 00:16:07,245 Commercial: are, are we, are we exaggerating this issue, og, because 339 00:16:07,245 --> 00:16:08,745 I'm thinking, think about Joe. 340 00:16:08,750 --> 00:16:09,735 Bur, Joe Burrow. 341 00:16:09,735 --> 00:16:10,395 Think about. 342 00:16:11,115 --> 00:16:13,065 Who's, uh, Justin, Justin Fields. 343 00:16:13,065 --> 00:16:17,595 Think about these players who p pre n I l just left because they, they 344 00:16:17,595 --> 00:16:20,475 obviously understood that there was an opportunity where they were currently, 345 00:16:20,805 --> 00:16:24,495 they went to other schools thrived, and most of them now are in the, the N nfl. 346 00:16:24,500 --> 00:16:28,485 So, I don't know, is it, is it really that big of an issue or 347 00:16:28,490 --> 00:16:31,695 we, again, is it a trend that's gonna get worse over the years? 348 00:16:31,695 --> 00:16:32,895 Should we be concerned? 349 00:16:33,195 --> 00:16:36,105 Will this change the way we view players? 350 00:16:36,825 --> 00:16:42,735 Other Guy: I, I think the i l as a whole, it, there are some teams, a 351 00:16:42,735 --> 00:16:47,865 lot of smaller teams and then big city teams that are very good at the N I L I. 352 00:16:47,865 --> 00:16:52,515 I think some of the powerhouse teams like the, the Georgia's, the Alabama's, 353 00:16:52,725 --> 00:16:56,745 Ohio State's, Michigan's, they're still kind of trying to figure it out. 354 00:16:57,315 --> 00:17:02,715 But I think when, when a couple of those, you know, big time schools, 355 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:07,065 you know, those top five schools are negatively affected, I think that's 356 00:17:07,065 --> 00:17:09,194 when we'll see some standardization. 357 00:17:10,055 --> 00:17:13,260 across the board on just kind of reigning in the rules because 358 00:17:13,589 --> 00:17:17,190 you've got, you've got schools like, like Miami has done it very well. 359 00:17:17,329 --> 00:17:21,060 They, they played their n i l cards very well, Rutgers, even 360 00:17:21,060 --> 00:17:24,240 because they're so close to New York, they can get no alignment. 361 00:17:24,244 --> 00:17:27,540 A, you know, a, a a card, you know, sponsorship or whatever. 362 00:17:27,540 --> 00:17:32,670 But because the school itself is not responsible for getting the N I 363 00:17:32,670 --> 00:17:36,000 L deals, they've got these kind of middlemen that, that, you know, try and 364 00:17:36,750 --> 00:17:38,940 be that, be that agent to both sides. 365 00:17:39,690 --> 00:17:45,870 But the, um, the big one is a player of Florida's future quarterback decommitted. 366 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:50,985 Um, Over a 13 million deal, and he's from California. 367 00:17:50,985 --> 00:17:53,415 And in California you've gotta have it signed in the contract. 368 00:17:53,715 --> 00:17:56,175 Well, in Florida it's a handshake deal. 369 00:17:56,295 --> 00:18:00,855 And you know, for whatever reason, it, it fell through and he asked to 370 00:18:00,860 --> 00:18:04,935 be out of the contract because it was contingent on this $13 million. 371 00:18:04,935 --> 00:18:07,755 And so now he's, he's a free agent again, up to the highest 372 00:18:07,755 --> 00:18:10,935 bidder, but he's a mercenary. 373 00:18:10,935 --> 00:18:13,455 It's just, it's who's gonna pay him the most money? 374 00:18:13,665 --> 00:18:18,875 Which I, I understand he, he's a football player, he wants to get paid, but I ju I 375 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:20,235 don't think it's what's best for the game. 376 00:18:21,135 --> 00:18:21,405 T-Bird: Mm-hmm. 377 00:18:21,435 --> 00:18:21,915 What you gotta do, 378 00:18:23,205 --> 00:18:25,715 Producer Dex: I think you guys are conflating the N I 379 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:27,255 l with the transfer market. 380 00:18:28,485 --> 00:18:29,865 Um, the transfer portal. 381 00:18:30,825 --> 00:18:33,885 First off, the, the whole reason why we had the N I L to begin 382 00:18:33,885 --> 00:18:36,255 with is because of, uh, ed Bannon. 383 00:18:36,435 --> 00:18:38,835 Ed O'Bannon of A U C L A. 384 00:18:38,875 --> 00:18:39,115 Yeah. 385 00:18:39,120 --> 00:18:39,255 Yeah. 386 00:18:39,285 --> 00:18:42,525 Because his image and stuff were used even after he was outta college. 387 00:18:42,870 --> 00:18:44,459 And that's, that wasn't fair. 388 00:18:44,490 --> 00:18:48,840 And so you had states like California saying that these players, they could 389 00:18:48,844 --> 00:18:50,669 have the rights to their own images. 390 00:18:51,179 --> 00:18:52,620 The NCAA couldn't have it. 391 00:18:52,889 --> 00:18:57,750 So then because California decided to do that, all the other states were like, 392 00:18:57,750 --> 00:19:01,620 well, everybody's gonna go there because they have the right to their own image. 393 00:19:01,620 --> 00:19:05,459 So then the NCAA kind of freed that up to where all the players can 394 00:19:05,459 --> 00:19:06,659 have the rights to their own image. 395 00:19:06,990 --> 00:19:11,189 But with that, there was a transfer portal because if somebody is good 396 00:19:11,189 --> 00:19:14,250 and they're not starting at whatever school that they're, that they 397 00:19:14,250 --> 00:19:17,550 originally went to, for whatever reason, they can go somewhere else. 398 00:19:17,550 --> 00:19:19,050 And they should have the right to do that. 399 00:19:19,290 --> 00:19:21,419 The NCAA should not be beholden to it. 400 00:19:21,419 --> 00:19:24,270 I mean, they have way too much monopoly power when it comes 401 00:19:24,270 --> 00:19:24,780 Other Guy: to all of this. 402 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:32,310 So then it, I think it just, the n i l incentivizes all the, the quarterbacks, 403 00:19:32,310 --> 00:19:36,540 the wide receivers and the running backs, because they're, they're the more popular 404 00:19:36,540 --> 00:19:39,929 players that are gonna get the ball more and, and they make all the big plays. 405 00:19:39,929 --> 00:19:41,189 So just. 406 00:19:41,595 --> 00:19:42,705 Teams need big uglies. 407 00:19:42,705 --> 00:19:46,395 They need a lineman, d lineman, just those less glorious positions. 408 00:19:46,395 --> 00:19:46,605 But I 409 00:19:46,605 --> 00:19:49,305 Producer Dex: completely disagree with you, and I'm gonna give you one example. 410 00:19:50,385 --> 00:19:53,475 Uh, Libby Dunn, do you know who Libby Dunn is? 411 00:19:53,535 --> 00:19:53,835 Nope. 412 00:19:54,315 --> 00:19:59,025 She is one of the most powerful voices in the n I l right now. 413 00:19:59,595 --> 00:20:01,845 She is a gymnast for l lsu. 414 00:20:02,595 --> 00:20:07,575 She has 13 million followers on her, uh, Instagram or something like that. 415 00:20:08,025 --> 00:20:11,805 And her star power is so powerful that they've had to get 416 00:20:11,805 --> 00:20:13,830 security because of her fans. 417 00:20:14,955 --> 00:20:16,935 That is the power, the N N I L. 418 00:20:17,295 --> 00:20:20,025 Other Guy: But, but how much money has she made on her image? 419 00:20:20,085 --> 00:20:20,385 I don't know 420 00:20:20,385 --> 00:20:21,615 Producer Dex: how much money she's made on image. 421 00:20:21,615 --> 00:20:23,265 I don't really care how much money she's made on her. 422 00:20:23,445 --> 00:20:23,765 It's, 423 00:20:23,765 --> 00:20:24,495 Other Guy: it's not 13 million. 424 00:20:24,975 --> 00:20:27,165 That about a quarterback that's unproven. 425 00:20:27,255 --> 00:20:27,945 Producer Dex: It wouldn't matter. 426 00:20:28,395 --> 00:20:29,385 She's a gymnast. 427 00:20:30,074 --> 00:20:33,014 How many other gymnasts, I can't even name another gymnast. 428 00:20:33,044 --> 00:20:35,385 The only reason why I know of her is because of the amount of 429 00:20:35,385 --> 00:20:37,604 security that she's had had to get. 430 00:20:38,205 --> 00:20:41,715 Now you, you're conflating being a student with being a business. 431 00:20:42,014 --> 00:20:44,925 Now these students have control of their image. 432 00:20:44,929 --> 00:20:48,584 They have control of their rights, just like a free agent in any other sport. 433 00:20:48,885 --> 00:20:49,935 They have a right to that. 434 00:20:49,935 --> 00:20:51,104 They should have a right to that. 435 00:20:51,584 --> 00:20:52,185 So as they should 436 00:20:52,185 --> 00:20:53,264 Other Guy: absolutely have a right to that. 437 00:20:53,294 --> 00:20:53,685 Yes. 438 00:20:53,685 --> 00:20:54,584 I, I agree. 439 00:20:54,675 --> 00:20:55,304 I, I agree. 440 00:20:55,304 --> 00:20:58,604 They should, they should be compensated if their image is used. 441 00:20:58,604 --> 00:21:01,754 But whose image is going to be used more often? 442 00:21:01,784 --> 00:21:04,784 The quarterback or, or the guard or the tackle? 443 00:21:05,145 --> 00:21:06,284 Well, it's gonna be the quarterback 444 00:21:06,290 --> 00:21:06,735 Producer Dex: all day. 445 00:21:06,764 --> 00:21:07,814 I mean, maybe she's it. 446 00:21:07,844 --> 00:21:11,834 I mean, if there's gonna be people that you know, uh, that aren't 447 00:21:11,834 --> 00:21:13,935 going to, you know, be as popular. 448 00:21:14,294 --> 00:21:16,754 I, I mean, I can't even think of a lineman. 449 00:21:16,784 --> 00:21:20,715 Everybody's gonna think, you know, whenever the, um, whenever the reporters 450 00:21:20,745 --> 00:21:24,225 talk to somebody, it's always gonna be your specialist players anyway. 451 00:21:24,690 --> 00:21:25,889 So is it fair to them? 452 00:21:26,250 --> 00:21:27,750 Is it fair to the guards? 453 00:21:27,750 --> 00:21:30,060 Is it fair to the kickers and all that other, Elizabeth? 454 00:21:30,330 --> 00:21:34,080 Well then you can't be mad at either party for the amount that it 455 00:21:34,085 --> 00:21:34,500 Other Guy: gets. 456 00:21:34,500 --> 00:21:37,889 If I'm a 13 year old kid, think looking at, at what this landscape 457 00:21:37,889 --> 00:21:41,129 looks like, I'm gonna, I'm, hey, I want to, I want the money. 458 00:21:41,135 --> 00:21:42,120 I wanna be a quarterback. 459 00:21:42,120 --> 00:21:46,020 Or why you have a running back instead of maybe what they're best suited 460 00:21:46,020 --> 00:21:49,050 for, or it just, it de incentivizes. 461 00:21:49,260 --> 00:21:49,840 Do you 462 00:21:49,845 --> 00:21:54,150 Producer Dex: know what the number one desired profession is of 13 year old kids? 463 00:21:54,150 --> 00:21:54,600 Right now 464 00:21:54,990 --> 00:21:56,800 Other Guy: it's, it's probably YouTube, YouTuber, or, 465 00:21:57,360 --> 00:21:58,350 Producer Dex: or a Twitch star. 466 00:21:58,350 --> 00:22:00,150 So all of that doesn't even matter. 467 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:04,230 All of that, that still just features into everything that they're doing. 468 00:22:04,830 --> 00:22:05,490 Do you see what I'm saying? 469 00:22:05,490 --> 00:22:08,220 Like it doesn't take away or put anything toward. 470 00:22:08,985 --> 00:22:13,215 The, the game, it doesn't take anything away from, from football. 471 00:22:13,395 --> 00:22:14,535 Other Guy: I mean, it is what it is. 472 00:22:14,545 --> 00:22:18,135 It change, it changes recruiting from it. 473 00:22:18,135 --> 00:22:21,105 It just makes recruiting not a, it just makes it more of a, 474 00:22:21,165 --> 00:22:22,485 it's a business transaction. 475 00:22:22,490 --> 00:22:23,415 It's not like it 476 00:22:23,415 --> 00:22:24,285 Producer Dex: wasn't before, 477 00:22:25,395 --> 00:22:26,655 Other Guy: like it wasn't before. 478 00:22:27,255 --> 00:22:28,545 T-Bird: It's just legal Now. 479 00:22:28,575 --> 00:22:29,205 You think that 480 00:22:29,205 --> 00:22:32,895 Producer Dex: $30,000 degree that I would get from like U C L is worth 481 00:22:33,285 --> 00:22:37,215 Bobs if I'm going into, you know, if I'm playing for the Cincinnati 482 00:22:37,215 --> 00:22:38,475 Bengals or something like that. 483 00:22:38,535 --> 00:22:40,785 Other Guy: But these are are student athletes. 484 00:22:41,235 --> 00:22:42,315 Producer Dex: They made money for their school. 485 00:22:42,435 --> 00:22:44,025 They made money for their school already. 486 00:22:44,385 --> 00:22:46,455 Do you know how many scholarships all that pays for? 487 00:22:47,220 --> 00:22:47,790 T-Bird: Come on. 488 00:22:48,090 --> 00:22:48,900 Oh, G oh G. 489 00:22:48,900 --> 00:22:49,500 Those schools, 490 00:22:49,500 --> 00:22:51,120 Producer Dex: those kids own no schools, nothing. 491 00:22:51,120 --> 00:22:51,810 T-Bird: Dude, nothing. 492 00:22:51,810 --> 00:22:56,550 You saying that they should do things the right way, but they don't, he's 493 00:22:56,555 --> 00:22:58,920 Producer Dex: saying the slaves should be beholden to the plantation. 494 00:22:58,990 --> 00:22:59,630 What he saying? 495 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:00,150 Oh wow. 496 00:23:00,150 --> 00:23:00,670 Yeah, that's, 497 00:23:00,670 --> 00:23:01,150 Other Guy: that's 498 00:23:01,150 --> 00:23:02,150 Producer Dex: that's what I said. 499 00:23:02,150 --> 00:23:03,270 That's what I said. 500 00:23:03,270 --> 00:23:03,570 T-Bird: Yeah. 501 00:23:03,630 --> 00:23:08,070 But what I'm saying is you're saying that, uh, because they're 502 00:23:08,070 --> 00:23:11,790 student athletes don't, don't, yeah. 503 00:23:11,790 --> 00:23:12,690 That's what they are. 504 00:23:12,690 --> 00:23:13,380 It's modern day. 505 00:23:13,380 --> 00:23:16,500 Search them, but don't, but don't, nobody, don't nobody care about that. 506 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:17,880 Them coaches don't care. 507 00:23:19,004 --> 00:23:21,554 They want you to go to class, they want you to make the good grade, 508 00:23:21,735 --> 00:23:23,264 but they want you to play football. 509 00:23:23,264 --> 00:23:23,265 Right. 510 00:23:23,271 --> 00:23:23,625 Ds get 511 00:23:23,625 --> 00:23:24,075 Other Guy: degrees. 512 00:23:24,075 --> 00:23:25,304 That's where that scene came from. 513 00:23:25,335 --> 00:23:25,544 Yeah. 514 00:23:25,784 --> 00:23:31,605 But I just, it just, to me, a good football team is well-rounded in all 515 00:23:31,605 --> 00:23:36,225 aspects and with this, all this big money thrown around, it's, it's not getting 516 00:23:36,230 --> 00:23:37,875 thrown around to the o and d lineman. 517 00:23:37,875 --> 00:23:39,825 It's getting thrown around to quarterbacks wide receivers. 518 00:23:40,034 --> 00:23:42,135 T-Bird: Unless you are just phenomenal 519 00:23:42,195 --> 00:23:44,064 Commercial: as a old lineman, it's not even being phenomenal. 520 00:23:44,070 --> 00:23:48,385 It's, you know, name recognition, people outside of the sport. 521 00:23:48,385 --> 00:23:48,665 Mm-hmm. 522 00:23:48,745 --> 00:23:49,365 , do they know you? 523 00:23:49,365 --> 00:23:54,225 Uh, you know, can they, Bryce Young made $4 million and. 524 00:23:55,629 --> 00:23:59,430 I can't be mad at him, and he should be the one to be able to make that kind of 525 00:23:59,430 --> 00:24:01,770 money off of his name and en likeness. 526 00:24:01,770 --> 00:24:05,120 I know the school's making way more money off of that than he is like, 527 00:24:05,120 --> 00:24:08,460 come on, if it's because he won the Heisman Trophy, okay, if it's 528 00:24:08,460 --> 00:24:10,200 because he's a quarterback, okay? 529 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:15,210 Again, recognizing your worth and your value should be something that 530 00:24:15,210 --> 00:24:16,830 should be controlled by that player. 531 00:24:16,830 --> 00:24:18,330 And that's what this world is. 532 00:24:18,330 --> 00:24:18,570 All right. 533 00:24:18,570 --> 00:24:22,800 Now understanding, you know, again, the evolution of sports, um, with, 534 00:24:22,860 --> 00:24:24,840 you know, fantasy, fantasy leagues. 535 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,870 It's, it's about your brand, and we'll talk a little bit more about 536 00:24:27,870 --> 00:24:29,480 that later, but, oh, I can't be mad. 537 00:24:29,670 --> 00:24:30,480 I got one question. 538 00:24:30,590 --> 00:24:31,081 I got your 539 00:24:31,086 --> 00:24:33,210 Producer Dex: brand, I got, I got one question for og. 540 00:24:33,210 --> 00:24:34,080 I'll leave that alone. 541 00:24:34,290 --> 00:24:35,790 I, I got two questions actually for you. 542 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:36,510 Two questions. 543 00:24:36,510 --> 00:24:37,080 Two questions. 544 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:39,899 Who was your favorite player to come out of the draft last year? 545 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:42,750 Other Guy: Last year? 546 00:24:44,159 --> 00:24:45,780 My favorite player in recent years? 547 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:47,970 Probably local hero, Trevor Lawrence. 548 00:24:47,970 --> 00:24:48,180 Okay. 549 00:24:48,185 --> 00:24:48,960 What's his degree? 550 00:24:50,745 --> 00:24:53,475 I think it's, uh, agriculture, engineering 551 00:24:53,835 --> 00:24:55,515 Producer Dex: who, who cares? 552 00:24:55,635 --> 00:24:56,385 Do you see what I'm saying? 553 00:24:56,595 --> 00:24:57,375 Like nobody cares. 554 00:24:58,005 --> 00:24:58,125 T-Bird: Yeah. 555 00:24:58,125 --> 00:24:58,515 Because 556 00:24:58,755 --> 00:24:58,935 Other Guy: But 557 00:24:58,940 --> 00:25:01,425 Producer Dex: he also, the reason why we talk about him is because 558 00:25:01,425 --> 00:25:02,355 how he throws the football. 559 00:25:02,685 --> 00:25:02,985 Correct. 560 00:25:02,985 --> 00:25:04,635 Not because whether he got C in 561 00:25:04,635 --> 00:25:08,235 Other Guy: English, but, but he didn't, he didn't sign a $13 million n i l deal. 562 00:25:08,325 --> 00:25:08,655 It doesn't 563 00:25:08,655 --> 00:25:09,045 Producer Dex: matter. 564 00:25:09,165 --> 00:25:12,345 It does, it doesn't matter 565 00:25:12,345 --> 00:25:12,525 T-Bird: though. 566 00:25:12,525 --> 00:25:16,695 But, but lemme say this, he might not assign that, but he 567 00:25:16,695 --> 00:25:21,585 got everything he wanted while he was going through what His thing. 568 00:25:21,885 --> 00:25:24,045 You don't think he was getting everything that he wanted? 569 00:25:24,255 --> 00:25:24,615 If these 570 00:25:24,795 --> 00:25:26,865 Producer Dex: players could go to the pros without going to school, 571 00:25:26,865 --> 00:25:28,185 would we even be having this kind? 572 00:25:28,185 --> 00:25:29,445 Would we even have college football? 573 00:25:30,510 --> 00:25:30,930 That's fair. 574 00:25:30,930 --> 00:25:31,170 I mean, 575 00:25:33,660 --> 00:25:36,060 T-Bird: what's his name that running back tried to do that. 576 00:25:36,300 --> 00:25:38,760 Go straight outta high school to Yeah, but he was 577 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:39,210 Commercial: trash. 578 00:25:40,170 --> 00:25:41,370 He was 500 pounds. 579 00:25:41,370 --> 00:25:41,580 Bless. 580 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:43,020 Oh, you talking about Ohio State, dude? 581 00:25:43,025 --> 00:25:43,320 Yeah. 582 00:25:43,620 --> 00:25:43,980 Producer Dex: Marcus. 583 00:25:43,985 --> 00:25:44,210 T-Bird: Yeah. 584 00:25:44,210 --> 00:25:44,570 Something. 585 00:25:44,575 --> 00:25:46,890 Yeah, he was trash, but I'm just saying he was 586 00:25:46,895 --> 00:25:47,850 Commercial: a little, he tried to do it. 587 00:25:47,850 --> 00:25:48,180 Me too. 588 00:25:48,180 --> 00:25:48,450 Your 589 00:25:48,450 --> 00:25:50,220 T-Bird: body ain't physically ready 590 00:25:50,290 --> 00:25:52,890 Commercial: from high school to college, guys. 591 00:25:53,030 --> 00:25:53,810 Ooh, ooh. 592 00:25:53,815 --> 00:25:55,710 Strong feelings on both sides. 593 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:58,230 Y'all stick with us here on the Captors Sports Report. 594 00:25:58,235 --> 00:26:01,680 We certainly are ready and ready to go to talk some NFL playoffs. 595 00:26:01,950 --> 00:26:02,460 Stick with us. 596 00:26:23,774 --> 00:26:26,804 Hey, this is Mo better with the Cast Taylor Sports Report. 597 00:26:26,835 --> 00:26:30,225 I'd love for you to join us for what always promises should be and 598 00:26:30,225 --> 00:26:33,855 entertaining and lively discussion on the latest news in sports. 599 00:26:34,155 --> 00:26:38,955 And trust me, I need all the support I can get because refereeing these matchups 600 00:26:38,955 --> 00:26:43,935 with T-Bird and the other guy is no easy task, but it's always a lot of fun. 601 00:26:44,205 --> 00:26:45,794 Tune in Fridays at six o'clock. 602 00:26:54,719 --> 00:26:55,949 When shopping for homeowners 603 00:26:55,949 --> 00:26:57,750 T-Bird: insurance, understand 604 00:26:58,110 --> 00:27:00,600 Commercial: that any broker can bundle to save you money. 605 00:27:02,070 --> 00:27:06,899 The Levette Group takes insurance further with personalized agent attention. 606 00:27:07,919 --> 00:27:12,000 We are always available to advocate for you and your family when 607 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:15,360 processing claims and adjustment for your insurance requirements. 608 00:27:16,350 --> 00:27:19,800 Call me Todd Dean to find the best package that fits you. 609 00:27:21,149 --> 00:27:22,503 I can be reached at 6 610 00:27:22,503 --> 00:27:25,221 T-Bird: 7 8 7 7 7 7 611 00:27:25,221 --> 00:27:26,580 Commercial: 7 1 8. 612 00:27:27,689 --> 00:27:28,139 Again, 613 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,560 T-Bird: I'm Todd Dean of the Levette Group and you can reach me 614 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:35,870 Commercial: at 6 7 8 7 7 7 7 7 1 8. 615 00:27:39,389 --> 00:27:42,389 Producer Dex: Hey, this is Producer Dax with the C Potato Sports Report. 616 00:27:42,870 --> 00:27:45,870 I have so much fun watching these guys talk about sports like to 617 00:27:45,870 --> 00:27:46,889 send around the water cooler. 618 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,550 There are a few things that can compare to sharing your peace of mind 619 00:27:50,550 --> 00:27:51,930 about something that you care about. 620 00:27:53,250 --> 00:27:55,410 Have you ever thought about telling the world what you know? 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650 00:29:22,875 --> 00:29:25,754 Give yourself something to talk about on, uh, six o'clock on a 651 00:29:25,754 --> 00:29:26,085 Commercial: Friday. 652 00:29:26,085 --> 00:29:28,365 So, yeah, it's not like you're doing anything else. 653 00:29:28,725 --> 00:29:31,335 You know, you're not living life or making coffee 654 00:29:31,335 --> 00:29:32,625 Producer Dex: for somebody else, right? 655 00:29:33,075 --> 00:29:33,315 Other Guy: Yes. 656 00:29:34,095 --> 00:29:36,975 T-Bird: That's because people that make coffee for other people are nice. 657 00:29:37,345 --> 00:29:37,695 Producer Dex: Aw. 658 00:29:38,175 --> 00:29:38,655 Hashtag 659 00:29:38,659 --> 00:29:39,315 Commercial: Starbucks. 660 00:29:39,615 --> 00:29:43,455 No, . We don't, we're not, we're not gonna start the coffee debate cuz No. 661 00:29:44,055 --> 00:29:48,585 Um, so we've got the N F L playoffs going a little bit deeper, deeper, 662 00:29:48,585 --> 00:29:52,755 I know you enjoyed last weekend watching some, some good games, man. 663 00:29:52,755 --> 00:29:54,195 They were, uh, surprise, surprise. 664 00:29:54,675 --> 00:29:58,125 We, I know we're all rooting for the Jaguars hometown team. 665 00:29:58,515 --> 00:30:02,925 Dude, when you four throw four interceptions, you're supposed to lose. 666 00:30:03,225 --> 00:30:04,125 You're supposed to lose. 667 00:30:04,125 --> 00:30:08,955 But if nothing else, I think we're seeing the evolution of Trevor Lawrence and it's 668 00:30:08,955 --> 00:30:13,515 just really exciting to see him grow as a player and start to realize the greatness 669 00:30:13,515 --> 00:30:14,985 that everybody thought he would have. 670 00:30:14,990 --> 00:30:16,425 It's the number one overall pick. 671 00:30:16,785 --> 00:30:19,995 So again, I think, I don't, I think give another year or two. 672 00:30:19,995 --> 00:30:24,735 I might jump on the Jaguars bandwagon, but, um, they've got a tough road to 673 00:30:24,735 --> 00:30:27,015 plow, facing the charges, not the charges. 674 00:30:27,015 --> 00:30:32,655 Chief Chiefs this weekend, I, Patrick Mahomes, I mean student versus teacher. 675 00:30:32,925 --> 00:30:33,825 Yeah, I, uh, 676 00:30:34,575 --> 00:30:37,015 Other Guy: and going back to Trevor, I, I think. 677 00:30:37,949 --> 00:30:40,830 At least two, maybe three of those interceptions not his fault. 678 00:30:40,860 --> 00:30:40,949 Mm-hmm. 679 00:30:41,189 --> 00:30:42,000 . But yeah. 680 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:45,689 I, I saw a funny thing about, yeah, there's no way that the Jags need, 681 00:30:45,695 --> 00:30:48,540 you know, three touchdowns and two extra points in a, you know, in a 682 00:30:48,540 --> 00:30:50,129 field goal and a two point convert. 683 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:52,270 And Trevor Lawrence hold my beer, you know? 684 00:30:52,270 --> 00:30:52,510 Mm-hmm. 685 00:30:52,590 --> 00:30:53,030 let's do it. 686 00:30:53,030 --> 00:30:53,270 Mm-hmm. 687 00:30:53,350 --> 00:30:54,909 . So, um, yeah. 688 00:30:54,909 --> 00:30:57,840 I just, it's hard not to just be excited and, and root for them 689 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,330 because they've had such a upturn. 690 00:31:00,334 --> 00:31:00,750 Mm-hmm. 691 00:31:00,889 --> 00:31:05,070 , and, and let's be real, he is with the quarterback whisperer, Doug Peterson. 692 00:31:05,070 --> 00:31:06,330 Really, really is. 693 00:31:06,659 --> 00:31:11,699 But, uh, man, the chiefs are, the chief's defense has improved over the last year. 694 00:31:11,699 --> 00:31:14,459 Their offense is arguably better than ever. 695 00:31:15,159 --> 00:31:15,510 Uh, 696 00:31:15,540 --> 00:31:16,110 T-Bird: I, I know. 697 00:31:16,149 --> 00:31:19,439 Don't you just love, and, and Mo you weren't here last week. 698 00:31:19,439 --> 00:31:20,429 Me and OG talked. 699 00:31:21,030 --> 00:31:26,190 Don't you just love, they did a play where they, they lined up in a circle. 700 00:31:26,195 --> 00:31:27,060 This handy reed. 701 00:31:27,060 --> 00:31:27,510 Commercial: Yeah. 702 00:31:27,570 --> 00:31:28,650 Lined up in a circle 703 00:31:28,650 --> 00:31:31,590 T-Bird: and ran around a circle, run up to the line, and ran the play and score. 704 00:31:32,340 --> 00:31:33,030 Commercial: God, I love that. 705 00:31:33,030 --> 00:31:35,820 But what happened, didn't they, didn't they call that, they called it back, 706 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:37,800 but still it was, it was fun to watch. 707 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:38,560 Come on now, the 708 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:39,190 T-Bird: thought process. 709 00:31:39,190 --> 00:31:39,590 Mm-hmm. 710 00:31:39,670 --> 00:31:43,050 , they, they didn't have to call that holding, they didn't have to call it, you 711 00:31:43,050 --> 00:31:44,610 know, they call Holden whenever they want. 712 00:31:45,030 --> 00:31:46,920 But it was just ingenious 713 00:31:47,250 --> 00:31:47,310 Other Guy: og. 714 00:31:47,730 --> 00:31:52,050 It was, and I, I want, I like both teams. 715 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:54,600 I want the Jags to really play well. 716 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:57,900 I think they're another year or two out from being a real contender. 717 00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:02,670 But man, you're, you're facing the Chiefs who, you know, who are the, um, 718 00:32:03,540 --> 00:32:08,430 just, they're a playoff, you know, n f c title winner potentially every year. 719 00:32:08,820 --> 00:32:12,300 And it's, I th I think they're up for a, uh, a tough game. 720 00:32:12,810 --> 00:32:17,310 Uh, and then we got kind of the rematch that never really happened the first 721 00:32:17,310 --> 00:32:19,290 time around the Bengals versus the Bills. 722 00:32:19,350 --> 00:32:19,440 Mm-hmm. 723 00:32:19,530 --> 00:32:24,390 is the other N F C game, and it's at Buffalo this time, but 724 00:32:24,570 --> 00:32:28,800 I, I'm sure emotions will be high on both sides of that game. 725 00:32:29,190 --> 00:32:33,510 And again, another potentially exciting high scoring game. 726 00:32:33,900 --> 00:32:38,400 You know, both teams, you know, high potent offense and, um, that'll 727 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:39,690 be another good one to watch. 728 00:32:40,050 --> 00:32:40,590 But I think. 729 00:32:41,190 --> 00:32:44,490 Everybody's kind of in the back of their mind in a little bit, hoping for 730 00:32:44,490 --> 00:32:48,540 a Chiefs Bills rematch from last year, cuz that was probably the best game 731 00:32:48,870 --> 00:32:53,070 of the entire season, um, was the, was the AFC Championship game last year. 732 00:32:53,580 --> 00:32:56,400 And then in the N Ffc Giants kind of a surprise. 733 00:32:56,400 --> 00:33:00,900 They, you know, surprised but not really, uh, going up against the Eagles. 734 00:33:01,230 --> 00:33:01,380 Yeah. 735 00:33:01,770 --> 00:33:04,230 And, and then the Cowboys against 49ers. 736 00:33:04,260 --> 00:33:07,590 You know, the 49ers have very quietly won nine games in a row. 737 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,890 And I don't think they've lost since they got Christian McCaffrey 738 00:33:12,210 --> 00:33:13,980 . T-Bird: I mean, he, he was a big get. 739 00:33:14,355 --> 00:33:18,075 And, uh, he, the real deal, long as he stay healthy, he the real deal. 740 00:33:18,255 --> 00:33:18,825 And as long 741 00:33:18,830 --> 00:33:20,535 Other Guy: he's been in the league for a long time. 742 00:33:20,625 --> 00:33:23,355 This, I believe this is his first playoff game ever. 743 00:33:24,105 --> 00:33:24,615 T-Bird: Yeah. 744 00:33:24,705 --> 00:33:27,585 Uh, well, you know, where he was at, they wasn't doing much. 745 00:33:27,585 --> 00:33:32,925 But, but you know, it also shows the kind of coach Kyle Shanahan is. 746 00:33:33,285 --> 00:33:36,315 I mean his offenses are so nice. 747 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:40,845 We, we got that when he was with Atlanta in 16 and Matt Ryan was doing things 748 00:33:40,845 --> 00:33:42,465 that we didn't think Matt Ryan could do. 749 00:33:42,975 --> 00:33:48,825 So now that you got, you know, you got Purdy doing his thing, uh, he was the 750 00:33:48,825 --> 00:33:50,565 third quarterback on the death chart. 751 00:33:50,985 --> 00:33:53,895 Now they don't know if the other guy, they got hurt. 752 00:33:54,105 --> 00:33:58,815 Trey Lawrence, uh, Trey Lance, Trey Lance is gonna be you, you know, you 753 00:33:58,815 --> 00:34:00,165 got a decision to make right there. 754 00:34:00,315 --> 00:34:02,865 Cause this guy's playing so good and knows your system. 755 00:34:03,495 --> 00:34:05,205 Uh, it, it is gonna be something. 756 00:34:05,415 --> 00:34:12,825 And I wa I ain't never cheered for, uh, Kyle Shannahan since he left Atlanta. 757 00:34:13,395 --> 00:34:18,075 But I'm gonna cheer for him this time cause I don't want them cowboys and 758 00:34:18,075 --> 00:34:20,145 Jerry going nowhere way you stop that. 759 00:34:20,235 --> 00:34:25,565 I don't wanna see Jerry going nowhere talking about his cowboys. 760 00:34:26,175 --> 00:34:26,385 I, 761 00:34:26,385 --> 00:34:29,805 Other Guy: I think this year, I, I think it's the first time in, in several 762 00:34:29,805 --> 00:34:33,795 years that we have four Very good. 763 00:34:34,635 --> 00:34:37,515 The AFC and C championships could be played against four 764 00:34:37,515 --> 00:34:39,405 very closely contested games. 765 00:34:39,405 --> 00:34:42,465 There's not like one heavy favorite or a Super Bowl favorite. 766 00:34:42,465 --> 00:34:43,935 Oh, they're a lock for the Super Bowl. 767 00:34:43,965 --> 00:34:44,805 We don't have that. 768 00:34:45,105 --> 00:34:49,275 We've got four potentially very balanced teams, and the favorites are Cheese and 769 00:34:49,275 --> 00:34:52,035 bills and then the, the Eagles and 49ers. 770 00:34:52,695 --> 00:34:57,285 Uh, and if that holds true, and those would be some incredible 771 00:34:57,615 --> 00:34:58,875 a s C and NFC championship 772 00:34:58,880 --> 00:34:59,235 T-Bird: games. 773 00:34:59,265 --> 00:34:59,715 Yeah. 774 00:34:59,720 --> 00:35:03,435 I, I think they're all, uh, no, nobody's just completely dominating 775 00:35:03,855 --> 00:35:07,965 because the way it's going this year, uh, any given team can get beat. 776 00:35:08,085 --> 00:35:08,385 Right. 777 00:35:08,390 --> 00:35:10,875 I mean, I, the Jaguars proved that and. 778 00:35:11,565 --> 00:35:16,665 Uh, going back to what you said about Trevor a while ago, og, if Trevor gets 779 00:35:16,665 --> 00:35:20,174 this win, that's how you become that dude. 780 00:35:20,174 --> 00:35:20,294 Mm-hmm. 781 00:35:20,700 --> 00:35:23,984 , you know, when you win these kind of games, that's how you become 782 00:35:23,990 --> 00:35:24,674 Other Guy: that dude. 783 00:35:25,185 --> 00:35:28,305 And, and their defense has been playing arguably better than the 784 00:35:28,305 --> 00:35:29,955 offense, which, which is what they need 785 00:35:29,955 --> 00:35:30,705 T-Bird: against the chiefs. 786 00:35:30,710 --> 00:35:32,955 Can I, can I bring up a familiar name? 787 00:35:33,225 --> 00:35:34,535 Foyer Luon. 788 00:35:35,154 --> 00:35:35,835 Alu What? 789 00:35:35,835 --> 00:35:37,125 How you ever pronounce Atlanta? 790 00:35:37,904 --> 00:35:38,924 53 tackles. 791 00:35:39,375 --> 00:35:39,495 Yeah. 792 00:35:39,495 --> 00:35:42,555 I mean, again, why was he at Oh, the Atlanta Falcons. 793 00:35:42,765 --> 00:35:43,845 Uh, what did he do? 794 00:35:43,904 --> 00:35:45,794 He led the Atlanta Falcons in tackles. 795 00:35:46,065 --> 00:35:46,875 And what did we do? 796 00:35:46,904 --> 00:35:47,714 We let him go. 797 00:35:48,075 --> 00:35:48,345 Yeah. 798 00:35:48,495 --> 00:35:49,634 So, you know, I knew we 799 00:35:49,634 --> 00:35:51,585 Commercial: sneak Atlanta tacos perfect. 800 00:35:51,674 --> 00:35:51,944 In there. 801 00:35:51,944 --> 00:35:52,095 So, 802 00:35:52,095 --> 00:35:55,605 T-Bird: I mean, well, you know, we, we, we just like everything else, we 803 00:35:55,605 --> 00:36:01,185 spread out all over the league because I, I guess we couldn't pay our players. 804 00:36:01,185 --> 00:36:04,004 I mean, again, you got KZ spread out. 805 00:36:04,004 --> 00:36:04,964 I mean, yeah, it's just, 806 00:36:05,355 --> 00:36:06,015 Commercial: okay, go on. 807 00:36:06,015 --> 00:36:06,975 I like these matchups. 808 00:36:06,975 --> 00:36:08,085 They're all compelling. 809 00:36:08,294 --> 00:36:11,880 Um, I'm, I'm, I'm rooting for the Bengals. 810 00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:14,010 I just like the way that Joe Burrow plays. 811 00:36:14,010 --> 00:36:14,910 He's, he cool. 812 00:36:14,910 --> 00:36:19,320 He, he reminds me of a mix between the old Brett Fav and just being able 813 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:22,620 to kind of just run on the fly and just make plays and just shotguns. 814 00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:24,360 Joe Montana, everything e Cool. 815 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:25,440 I can see that E Cool. 816 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:26,250 T-Bird: As a cucu. 817 00:36:26,310 --> 00:36:26,550 Yeah. 818 00:36:26,670 --> 00:36:26,910 Yeah. 819 00:36:27,240 --> 00:36:28,950 He don't, his face don't even 820 00:36:28,950 --> 00:36:29,820 Commercial: show stretch. 821 00:36:29,825 --> 00:36:31,920 It's like he, he thrives on that. 822 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:33,990 He literally lights getting put in a crunch or tough 823 00:36:33,990 --> 00:36:35,820 situation so he can make a play. 824 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:36,450 I got to give 825 00:36:36,450 --> 00:36:36,780 T-Bird: it to him. 826 00:36:36,780 --> 00:36:38,310 It's this boy is the real deal. 827 00:36:38,430 --> 00:36:38,670 Other Guy: Yeah. 828 00:36:38,670 --> 00:36:42,450 I, I, I remember back even in college in the, in the championship, I just 829 00:36:42,450 --> 00:36:47,430 throwing 50 yard bombs just, I mean, right in the hands and, and just cool 830 00:36:48,220 --> 00:36:48,930 Commercial: having fun. 831 00:36:48,930 --> 00:36:52,530 Isn't that fun to see a young guy just have fun what he is doing, 832 00:36:52,530 --> 00:36:54,270 just not worry about And when 833 00:36:54,270 --> 00:36:54,390 you 834 00:36:54,390 --> 00:36:57,420 T-Bird: Yeah, when you see him on the sidelines, when when the defense 835 00:36:57,420 --> 00:36:59,100 on the field, he just like this. 836 00:36:59,260 --> 00:36:59,750 Yeah. 837 00:36:59,990 --> 00:37:01,530 , you know, he just, yeah. 838 00:37:01,530 --> 00:37:02,820 I'm just taking it all in. 839 00:37:02,820 --> 00:37:04,230 He ain't all Googling. 840 00:37:04,230 --> 00:37:06,690 I mean, just the guy's just cool. 841 00:37:06,695 --> 00:37:09,810 Right, and, and Joe Montana said in Super Bowl, y'all remember this. 842 00:37:10,185 --> 00:37:11,985 I like to watch f l films, man. 843 00:37:12,765 --> 00:37:17,115 They were, uh, in a huddle and the 49ers were driving down the field and 844 00:37:17,115 --> 00:37:18,855 Harris Barton was one of the linemen. 845 00:37:19,185 --> 00:37:20,055 This is what he said. 846 00:37:20,505 --> 00:37:23,625 He said, Joe, when they got in the huddle, he said, Hey, look down 847 00:37:23,625 --> 00:37:25,485 there, see what that is at the end 848 00:37:25,575 --> 00:37:26,085 Commercial: of the end zone. 849 00:37:26,655 --> 00:37:26,745 He 850 00:37:26,745 --> 00:37:27,585 T-Bird: said, who? 851 00:37:28,875 --> 00:37:29,925 That's John Candy. 852 00:37:31,155 --> 00:37:34,755 Then he calls to play and then they, I mean, you know what I'm saying? 853 00:37:34,815 --> 00:37:34,905 Yeah. 854 00:37:34,965 --> 00:37:36,615 Look, you're in the biggest game. 855 00:37:36,620 --> 00:37:37,605 They was in the Super Bowl. 856 00:37:37,785 --> 00:37:42,045 You're in the biggest game of the year and in the middle of the huddle and everybody, 857 00:37:42,255 --> 00:37:43,965 you know, it is a level of stress. 858 00:37:44,565 --> 00:37:46,935 He looks, Hey man, John Candy down there, you 859 00:37:46,935 --> 00:37:47,385 Other Guy: said, my damn. 860 00:37:47,385 --> 00:37:48,675 But he's calm and collected. 861 00:37:48,675 --> 00:37:51,375 He's calm, and, and as the leader, you're gonna be more calm. 862 00:37:51,375 --> 00:37:53,025 And when you, when you see the, no team's 863 00:37:53,025 --> 00:37:53,805 T-Bird: gonna be calm, right? 864 00:37:53,955 --> 00:37:58,455 They, they, they, they're gonna, uh, all the skill sets, all the skill players, 865 00:37:58,455 --> 00:38:01,665 they're gonna do what they supposed a lineman going block better everybody 866 00:38:01,665 --> 00:38:04,035 know because Joe Cool is leading them. 867 00:38:04,305 --> 00:38:04,605 Right. 868 00:38:04,815 --> 00:38:09,345 Other Guy: But man, if, if, if you had the weapons that, that, that Joe cool 869 00:38:09,345 --> 00:38:10,965 has, I mean, wouldn't you be having fun 870 00:38:10,965 --> 00:38:11,655 T-Bird: every day too? 871 00:38:11,715 --> 00:38:12,315 Oh yeah. 872 00:38:12,435 --> 00:38:16,875 I mean, uh, it's just, it is just a great growth process. 873 00:38:16,965 --> 00:38:19,125 Uh, this kid was at Ohio State. 874 00:38:19,125 --> 00:38:19,965 Mm-hmm. 875 00:38:20,065 --> 00:38:22,695 . And, and then, uh, he comes down. 876 00:38:22,695 --> 00:38:23,355 Who beats him out? 877 00:38:23,355 --> 00:38:24,425 Ohio State, og. 878 00:38:25,095 --> 00:38:27,075 Other Guy: Uh, it was, it was a guy two years 879 00:38:27,075 --> 00:38:27,285 T-Bird: ago. 880 00:38:27,375 --> 00:38:28,575 Commercial: Um, I forget his name. 881 00:38:28,575 --> 00:38:28,875 What is it? 882 00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:29,745 Justin Fields? 883 00:38:30,015 --> 00:38:31,665 No, uh, cj. 884 00:38:32,265 --> 00:38:33,045 No, it wasn't him. 885 00:38:33,050 --> 00:38:34,035 It was, oh man. 886 00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:35,025 He was a real tall guy. 887 00:38:35,025 --> 00:38:36,555 He, he was like the third string. 888 00:38:36,555 --> 00:38:39,345 He ended up being the starter that then he's nowhere now, whoever. 889 00:38:39,345 --> 00:38:40,465 So he transfers 890 00:38:40,485 --> 00:38:41,585 T-Bird: to Lssu and. 891 00:38:42,435 --> 00:38:43,605 And Coach O was born 892 00:38:44,955 --> 00:38:48,645 . Producer Dex: Yeah, but he, he transferred after he got his degree from Ohio State. 893 00:38:48,855 --> 00:38:49,245 Okay. 894 00:38:49,245 --> 00:38:53,475 And counseling and financial se, uh, uh, family financial services. 895 00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:54,585 You Googled that right now? 896 00:38:54,615 --> 00:38:55,515 No, I, Wikipedia. 897 00:38:55,725 --> 00:38:56,275 Oh, excuse me. 898 00:38:56,275 --> 00:38:56,515 Okay. 899 00:38:56,515 --> 00:38:56,915 Thank 900 00:38:56,915 --> 00:38:57,035 Commercial: you. 901 00:38:57,035 --> 00:38:57,356 Excuse me. 902 00:38:57,585 --> 00:38:57,995 But, but 903 00:38:58,065 --> 00:39:01,695 T-Bird: I, that's, don't nobody care what he majored in. 904 00:39:02,385 --> 00:39:02,895 That's my 905 00:39:02,895 --> 00:39:03,285 Producer Dex: point. 906 00:39:03,285 --> 00:39:06,675 So let's take the student part out of the I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna bring 907 00:39:06,675 --> 00:39:06,855 Commercial: it back. 908 00:39:06,855 --> 00:39:07,215 Really. 909 00:39:07,215 --> 00:39:07,305 I'm 910 00:39:07,305 --> 00:39:08,175 T-Bird: not gonna, we moved on. 911 00:39:08,175 --> 00:39:08,625 We moved on. 912 00:39:08,625 --> 00:39:09,045 We did. 913 00:39:09,045 --> 00:39:11,475 But ain't my therapist says, I ain't nobody goes excellent. 914 00:39:11,475 --> 00:39:13,215 Ain't nobody gonna care till he retires. 915 00:39:13,215 --> 00:39:13,305 Right. 916 00:39:13,310 --> 00:39:14,565 And if he wants to do a little 917 00:39:14,565 --> 00:39:18,255 Commercial: bit of that . So we've got another great weekend of football 918 00:39:18,255 --> 00:39:20,715 starting tomorrow, Sunday now. 919 00:39:20,755 --> 00:39:23,355 No, we'll all be park in front of the television. 920 00:39:23,795 --> 00:39:27,465 T I hear you got a burning question about what we'll be doing. 921 00:39:27,635 --> 00:39:27,915 Yeah. 922 00:39:28,515 --> 00:39:29,625 I wanna know, you know, 923 00:39:30,195 --> 00:39:32,625 T-Bird: og, just tell me, OG what you gonna be doing? 924 00:39:32,685 --> 00:39:34,215 You gonna be watching any games tomorrow? 925 00:39:34,245 --> 00:39:34,515 Yeah. 926 00:39:34,665 --> 00:39:34,935 Okay. 927 00:39:34,935 --> 00:39:36,045 So what you gonna 928 00:39:36,075 --> 00:39:36,465 Other Guy: be eating? 929 00:39:37,845 --> 00:39:39,945 Uh, su I, we, we really. 930 00:39:40,335 --> 00:39:41,535 Pick out on Sundays. 931 00:39:41,625 --> 00:39:41,805 Yeah. 932 00:39:41,805 --> 00:39:45,375 And so, we'll, we'll do some, you know, some greasy takeout burgers 933 00:39:45,375 --> 00:39:47,265 and some fries or, or some wings. 934 00:39:47,295 --> 00:39:47,355 Okay. 935 00:39:47,504 --> 00:39:48,345 Maybe a pizza. 936 00:39:48,350 --> 00:39:52,694 Just, you know, easy with, with the hectic, uh, other stuff we have going on. 937 00:39:52,694 --> 00:39:56,115 Just something quick and easy, but man, it'd be nice to throw on some 938 00:39:56,115 --> 00:39:57,345 ribs or something on the grill. 939 00:39:57,404 --> 00:39:57,855 That's what I'm 940 00:39:57,855 --> 00:39:58,964 Producer Dex: saying with the side of Lipitor. 941 00:39:59,245 --> 00:39:59,734 Other Guy: Yeah. 942 00:40:00,855 --> 00:40:02,055 T-Bird: mo, what you got going on? 943 00:40:02,055 --> 00:40:04,424 I know you gonna be throwing some back on some kind of grill. 944 00:40:04,495 --> 00:40:04,694 Commercial: Ain. 945 00:40:04,694 --> 00:40:05,355 I don't know. 946 00:40:05,355 --> 00:40:06,944 My grill has like dust on it. 947 00:40:06,944 --> 00:40:08,745 It's not coming out until spring. 948 00:40:08,955 --> 00:40:09,464 Not the grill. 949 00:40:09,464 --> 00:40:09,935 It's not the grill. 950 00:40:10,004 --> 00:40:10,904 I know, I know. 951 00:40:10,964 --> 00:40:12,464 But I'll have, I'll have something. 952 00:40:12,470 --> 00:40:13,424 There's probably gonna be wings. 953 00:40:13,424 --> 00:40:13,845 You can't Okay. 954 00:40:14,234 --> 00:40:17,085 That's kind of something I can just na on during the, during, during 955 00:40:17,085 --> 00:40:20,444 the games and not really think about it and still kind of focus in. 956 00:40:20,450 --> 00:40:20,714 So. 957 00:40:20,714 --> 00:40:22,734 But a lot of, a lot of snacks. 958 00:40:22,884 --> 00:40:23,615 A lot of snacks. 959 00:40:23,615 --> 00:40:24,174 A lot of snacks. 960 00:40:24,174 --> 00:40:24,455 And 961 00:40:24,455 --> 00:40:26,444 T-Bird: see that, that's what I'm saying tomorrow I think's supposed 962 00:40:26,450 --> 00:40:28,154 to be a beautiful day, like today. 963 00:40:28,174 --> 00:40:28,415 Mm-hmm. 964 00:40:29,085 --> 00:40:34,665 . So I'm going, I'm gonna throw me out a nice rib by and I'm gonna season it up 965 00:40:34,665 --> 00:40:38,325 real good and get me some fresh veggies. 966 00:40:38,715 --> 00:40:40,515 And throw them on the side of the plate. 967 00:40:40,785 --> 00:40:44,595 Get me a, I might, uh, get me a little cools light to put over there 968 00:40:44,595 --> 00:40:48,675 on the right side, watching the game and then without the grill. 969 00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:51,345 Now the next best thing is the air fryer. 970 00:40:51,645 --> 00:40:52,365 Oh, yes. 971 00:40:52,365 --> 00:40:55,065 I'm gonna throw that steak in that air fryer and it's going 972 00:40:55,065 --> 00:40:56,985 to come out like a masterpiece. 973 00:40:57,255 --> 00:41:01,365 And my dog's going be standing now looking at me at attention, 974 00:41:01,635 --> 00:41:02,835 wanting some of that meat. 975 00:41:02,955 --> 00:41:03,255 Producer Dex: Baby. 976 00:41:03,435 --> 00:41:04,335 The, uh, you know what? 977 00:41:04,335 --> 00:41:04,965 I'm just gonna let you know. 978 00:41:05,225 --> 00:41:08,565 The sponsors of this show do not support you. 979 00:41:08,570 --> 00:41:11,595 Putting a piece of steak in an air fryer Yes. 980 00:41:11,595 --> 00:41:12,505 Isn't no. 981 00:41:12,505 --> 00:41:15,495 They go, no, they, that's the most communist thing I've ever heard. 982 00:41:15,495 --> 00:41:15,645 When it, 983 00:41:15,935 --> 00:41:17,445 Commercial: when it's cold outside. 984 00:41:18,195 --> 00:41:18,945 T-Bird: Uh, they do. 985 00:41:19,215 --> 00:41:19,935 Uh, that's why 986 00:41:19,935 --> 00:41:20,835 Producer Dex: you put it on a grill 987 00:41:21,105 --> 00:41:21,435 Other Guy: Dex. 988 00:41:21,435 --> 00:41:22,275 You can Google it. 989 00:41:22,755 --> 00:41:23,355 Producer Dex: Already did. 990 00:41:23,565 --> 00:41:24,945 Already did, already did. 991 00:41:24,945 --> 00:41:25,995 You can filet in the air fryer. 992 00:41:26,085 --> 00:41:27,405 You can, you 993 00:41:27,405 --> 00:41:29,025 Commercial: shouldn't, but you do. 994 00:41:29,385 --> 00:41:31,665 I want, I need steak, pictures, steak, some of the best steaks. 995 00:41:31,670 --> 00:41:33,665 I, I got one post, a picture on blast. 996 00:41:33,855 --> 00:41:34,985 I have to do Blast me. 997 00:41:35,670 --> 00:41:36,029 But, 998 00:41:36,029 --> 00:41:38,710 T-Bird: but hey, you know what you got, what you gonna 999 00:41:38,710 --> 00:41:39,710 have going on during the game? 1000 00:41:39,710 --> 00:41:40,620 What you, uh, 1001 00:41:40,710 --> 00:41:41,460 Producer Dex: I am Mr. 1002 00:41:41,460 --> 00:41:42,330 Greel master. 1003 00:41:42,420 --> 00:41:48,420 I am actually going to, um, attend my son's basketball game 1004 00:41:48,420 --> 00:41:50,880 and his baseball, uh, tryouts. 1005 00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:51,270 So 1006 00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:52,620 Other Guy: who knows? 1007 00:41:53,009 --> 00:41:53,580 T-Bird: All right. 1008 00:41:53,580 --> 00:41:55,020 Hey, but that's 1009 00:41:55,310 --> 00:41:55,950 Commercial: what we do. 1010 00:41:57,540 --> 00:41:58,549 What you got, mom? 1011 00:41:58,799 --> 00:42:01,259 Um, we got the final word on the playoffs from og. 1012 00:42:01,590 --> 00:42:02,070 I just 1013 00:42:02,820 --> 00:42:05,640 Other Guy: with, with some of the star power, not in the playoffs. 1014 00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:08,400 It, it's been a long time since we haven't had Aaron Rodgers or 1015 00:42:08,404 --> 00:42:11,040 Tom Brady in the playoffs, and 1016 00:42:12,180 --> 00:42:13,440 T-Bird: I'm glad they ain't in it. 1017 00:42:13,830 --> 00:42:14,250 Why? 1018 00:42:14,460 --> 00:42:15,390 I don't, 1019 00:42:15,390 --> 00:42:16,110 Commercial: I'm sick of them. 1020 00:42:16,230 --> 00:42:18,180 Tom, it's time for the mantle to be passed. 1021 00:42:18,420 --> 00:42:19,110 T-Bird: I agree. 1022 00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:20,220 I What's your, 1023 00:42:20,900 --> 00:42:21,810 Other Guy: I, I, I agree. 1024 00:42:21,810 --> 00:42:28,049 I think, I'm not a fan of Aaron Rods, but I think Tom Brady is just a living legend. 1025 00:42:28,055 --> 00:42:33,045 He still has it, although, He's been forced to kind of not play his best game, 1026 00:42:33,045 --> 00:42:37,575 and they didn't have the best team this year, so they don't deserve to be in it. 1027 00:42:37,575 --> 00:42:39,795 I just, he still, he still plays at an 1028 00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:40,605 T-Bird: incredibly high level. 1029 00:42:40,605 --> 00:42:41,055 He does. 1030 00:42:41,055 --> 00:42:46,695 But therefore, it, it wasn't, uh, Tom Brady and Tom Brady knows that that's 1031 00:42:46,700 --> 00:42:50,775 why he tries to hand-pick his players, you know, to come and play for him. 1032 00:42:51,105 --> 00:42:51,945 So, you know. 1033 00:42:52,755 --> 00:42:54,585 So is he gonna sign with a team next year? 1034 00:42:54,645 --> 00:42:55,845 I hope he go home. 1035 00:42:56,515 --> 00:42:58,605 . I mean, I'm, I, I'm not a fan of Tom Bradys. 1036 00:42:58,605 --> 00:42:59,445 I hope he go home. 1037 00:42:59,895 --> 00:43:02,415 I'm, I'm, I'm just, another thing you don't, you just don't know. 1038 00:43:02,775 --> 00:43:03,105 Yeah. 1039 00:43:03,105 --> 00:43:04,305 And you don't know either. 1040 00:43:06,135 --> 00:43:08,025 , just because you like Tom Brady. 1041 00:43:08,025 --> 00:43:09,195 You're supposed to make it right. 1042 00:43:09,225 --> 00:43:09,645 Commercial: Here we go. 1043 00:43:10,125 --> 00:43:10,485 Huh? 1044 00:43:10,605 --> 00:43:12,435 All right, we're gonna take a break. 1045 00:43:12,435 --> 00:43:13,125 Come with, yeah. 1046 00:43:13,545 --> 00:43:15,555 Tom, take a break and we'll come back and talk some. 1047 00:43:16,620 --> 00:43:17,200 Who you 1048 00:43:17,205 --> 00:43:17,280 T-Bird: with? 1049 00:43:17,790 --> 00:43:18,090 Blame it. 1050 00:43:18,180 --> 00:43:18,690 Who you with? 1051 00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:46,110 Other Guy: Hey, it's OG from the Couch Potato Sports Report. 1052 00:43:46,260 --> 00:43:47,400 You know the smart one? 1053 00:43:48,030 --> 00:43:51,930 Listen live every Friday at 6:00 PM on Podbean, as I drop some knowledge 1054 00:43:51,930 --> 00:43:53,670 on T-Bird to tell him like it is. 1055 00:43:53,730 --> 00:43:58,290 And then he tries to tell me why I'm wrong about Notre Dame being hypocrites. 1056 00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:01,710 The Braves repeating, or soccer being better than basketball. 1057 00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:06,330 Chat with us live on Fridays or catch it later on Apple, Spotify, 1058 00:44:06,390 --> 00:44:08,220 or wherever you listen to podcasts. 1059 00:44:16,395 --> 00:44:19,125 Commercial: Why would you hold onto a still old auto policy 1060 00:44:19,515 --> 00:44:20,865 where you have a fresh new car, 1061 00:44:22,395 --> 00:44:24,195 T-Bird: new ride, new you, new 1062 00:44:24,195 --> 00:44:24,615 Commercial: plan? 1063 00:44:24,620 --> 00:44:25,035 Right? 1064 00:44:26,325 --> 00:44:30,435 The Levette Group will assess the new you for a tailored policy 1065 00:44:30,585 --> 00:44:32,295 that meets all your requirements. 1066 00:44:33,435 --> 00:44:39,205 So why not update your auto needs with a personalized plan from the Levette group? 1067 00:44:39,585 --> 00:44:40,905 T-Bird: Call me Todd 1068 00:44:40,905 --> 00:44:43,065 Commercial: Dean to find the best package that fits you. 1069 00:44:44,355 --> 00:44:49,925 I can be reached at 6 7 8 7 7 7 7 7 1 8. 1070 00:44:50,895 --> 00:44:53,535 T-Bird: Again, I'm Todd Dean Dino with the Levette Group, 1071 00:44:53,985 --> 00:44:56,082 and you can reach me at 6 7 8 1072 00:44:56,082 --> 00:44:58,875 Commercial: 7 7 7 7 7 1 8. 1073 00:45:03,015 --> 00:45:06,015 Producer Dex: Hey, this is Producer Dex with the C Potato Sports Report. 1074 00:45:06,465 --> 00:45:09,465 I have so much fun watching these guys talk about sports like they're 1075 00:45:09,465 --> 00:45:10,545 sitting around a water cooler. 1076 00:45:11,145 --> 00:45:14,175 There are a few things that can compare to sharing your peace of mind 1077 00:45:14,175 --> 00:45:15,555 about something that you care about. 1078 00:45:16,875 --> 00:45:19,005 Have you ever thought about telling the world what you know? 1079 00:45:20,235 --> 00:45:21,615 That's where Pod Bean comes in. 1080 00:45:22,635 --> 00:45:26,205 Pod Bean is a podcast platform that combines live streaming, analytics, 1081 00:45:26,385 --> 00:45:29,235 a website and more all in one place. 1082 00:45:29,715 --> 00:45:32,985 You can create record, distribute, manage, and monetize your pod 1083 00:45:32,985 --> 00:45:34,665 from a desktop or phone app. 1084 00:45:35,385 --> 00:45:39,495 Start with the basic free plan and receive a $100 credit for 1085 00:45:39,785 --> 00:45:41,865 advertising to build your audience. 1086 00:45:42,285 --> 00:45:45,735 Now go to the show notes, click of the link, and you'll receive a 1087 00:45:45,735 --> 00:45:48,525 hundred dollars advertising credit when you start your podcast today. 1088 00:45:48,915 --> 00:45:50,355 Also, it's a great way to support the. 1089 00:46:03,765 --> 00:46:06,885 Commercial: We are back here on the couch Potato Sports Report. 1090 00:46:09,255 --> 00:46:09,315 T-Bird: Og 1091 00:46:09,435 --> 00:46:13,615 Other Guy: we, we, it's going be, we have gloves off and just, just let er, and I 1092 00:46:13,615 --> 00:46:16,725 T-Bird: just go, I'm telling you, it's going to be some 1093 00:46:17,375 --> 00:46:20,535 Commercial: fireworks in, if, if I was a paranoid person, I would, I 1094 00:46:20,535 --> 00:46:23,295 would think that I'm being antagonist because y'all said y'all got along 1095 00:46:23,295 --> 00:46:25,095 great last week when I wasn't here, so, 1096 00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:32,070 let's talk a little bit of hawks. 1097 00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:33,600 We watched 'em play the other night. 1098 00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:37,560 T-Bird, I'm sure that you were as I was a little bit, a little 1099 00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:40,860 bit impressed even though, you know, we'll see how long it lasts. 1100 00:46:40,860 --> 00:46:44,220 But there's a lot going on both on the court with injuries that they've 1101 00:46:44,220 --> 00:46:45,210 been dealing with this season. 1102 00:46:45,210 --> 00:46:46,950 A lot of changes in the front office. 1103 00:46:47,460 --> 00:46:51,390 Um, heard some rumblings that there's some locker room issues. 1104 00:46:51,390 --> 00:46:54,120 Heard some rumblings that there been some squabbles in the front office. 1105 00:46:54,690 --> 00:46:56,730 Is this a team that's in dysfunction? 1106 00:46:57,030 --> 00:47:00,180 That what we saw the other Was that last night? 1107 00:47:00,690 --> 00:47:01,240 Yeah, night before. 1108 00:47:01,240 --> 00:47:01,980 The night before. 1109 00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:04,050 Oh, we saw the night before they were playing Boston, right? 1110 00:47:04,500 --> 00:47:04,710 T-Bird: Yeah. 1111 00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:05,480 Nah, nah. 1112 00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:06,000 Who'd they play? 1113 00:47:06,270 --> 00:47:07,080 They were playing. 1114 00:47:07,110 --> 00:47:11,085 Um, um, They were playing. 1115 00:47:11,085 --> 00:47:11,924 Who were they playing? 1116 00:47:12,384 --> 00:47:14,115 Who were They'll look it up. 1117 00:47:14,205 --> 00:47:14,654 The Heat. 1118 00:47:14,924 --> 00:47:15,645 Mavericks. 1119 00:47:16,005 --> 00:47:16,964 Yes, the Mavericks. 1120 00:47:17,295 --> 00:47:17,654 That was Luca. 1121 00:47:17,654 --> 00:47:18,194 With Luca. 1122 00:47:18,585 --> 00:47:18,765 Yeah. 1123 00:47:18,765 --> 00:47:19,275 Yeah, yeah. 1124 00:47:19,335 --> 00:47:19,515 Thank 1125 00:47:19,515 --> 00:47:19,785 Commercial: you og. 1126 00:47:19,935 --> 00:47:24,194 So a again, I mean, should we be concerned, should we be excited? 1127 00:47:24,194 --> 00:47:29,025 We're getting close to the All-star break where really the rubber meets the road 1128 00:47:29,025 --> 00:47:30,674 and the weed is separate from the shaft. 1129 00:47:31,575 --> 00:47:32,984 The ninth place, I believe. 1130 00:47:33,045 --> 00:47:34,875 I mean, are they a contender? 1131 00:47:34,875 --> 00:47:35,355 I mean, 1132 00:47:35,415 --> 00:47:41,325 T-Bird: well, if they win the tonight they move up to number six and 1133 00:47:42,285 --> 00:47:44,234 you know, so that's a good thing. 1134 00:47:44,234 --> 00:47:47,714 But when you say, are they in shambles? 1135 00:47:47,714 --> 00:47:48,495 Yes they are. 1136 00:47:49,185 --> 00:47:51,134 Because we had a lot of front off stuff. 1137 00:47:51,134 --> 00:47:53,565 We, and you know who was right in the middle of it? 1138 00:47:53,565 --> 00:47:54,194 Trey Young. 1139 00:47:54,225 --> 00:47:54,345 Mm-hmm. 1140 00:47:55,185 --> 00:47:56,865 , uh, we lost Travis link. 1141 00:47:57,165 --> 00:48:00,225 Uh, I really did not like that. 1142 00:48:00,795 --> 00:48:03,194 I thought he did a good job building the team. 1143 00:48:03,194 --> 00:48:05,295 I think you should let him figure it out. 1144 00:48:05,295 --> 00:48:08,535 And how the way to fix you brought in the son. 1145 00:48:09,270 --> 00:48:15,450 Of, uh, the owner, Tony Wrestler, and he's 27 years old making decisions 1146 00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:19,260 and ain't never, as far as I know, got no basketball experience. 1147 00:48:19,770 --> 00:48:22,290 Then you got the new gm, uh, fields. 1148 00:48:22,740 --> 00:48:23,790 Uh, yeah. 1149 00:48:24,750 --> 00:48:30,300 So, but, uh, the c e o today, and I always forget his name, but he 1150 00:48:30,300 --> 00:48:32,100 is a bubbly guy, Steve, something. 1151 00:48:34,290 --> 00:48:38,880 He said that apparently that they, they like these new ideas 1152 00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:40,530 that these younger guys have. 1153 00:48:41,460 --> 00:48:47,310 You know, Kyle Carvers your new G assistant, gm, and, uh, so 1154 00:48:47,310 --> 00:48:50,190 apparently they going in a different direction without saying they 1155 00:48:50,190 --> 00:48:51,450 going in a different direction. 1156 00:48:51,450 --> 00:48:57,090 You know, I think that the Hawks can play well on a consistent basis. 1157 00:48:57,090 --> 00:48:59,550 Well, I don't know quite yet. 1158 00:48:59,550 --> 00:49:01,020 The other night was. 1159 00:49:01,980 --> 00:49:05,279 I thought they played a fab game, particularly Tre Young didn't 1160 00:49:05,279 --> 00:49:09,870 take the 50 and 70 footers was delivering the ball to open people. 1161 00:49:10,710 --> 00:49:15,450 Dre Murray was just, uh, he was that dog that we always talked about. 1162 00:49:15,450 --> 00:49:16,620 We needed for that game. 1163 00:49:16,799 --> 00:49:19,200 Over Luca, over a worthy opponent. 1164 00:49:19,890 --> 00:49:25,890 John Collins had another, had a great game because everybody was touching the ball. 1165 00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:27,660 We were even going into paint. 1166 00:49:27,660 --> 00:49:33,450 I could not believe Clint Capella had an outstanding game and they 1167 00:49:33,450 --> 00:49:35,129 had him on a minute schedule. 1168 00:49:36,060 --> 00:49:41,850 Uh, so you see that when we get that collaborative effort from 1169 00:49:41,850 --> 00:49:46,169 everybody and everybody feels like they're part of the game, you 1170 00:49:46,169 --> 00:49:47,640 play a little bit better defense. 1171 00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:49,710 You take a little bit better shots. 1172 00:49:50,069 --> 00:49:52,290 You uh, you, you hustle. 1173 00:49:52,379 --> 00:49:55,049 You do all the little bitty things that are not written 1174 00:49:55,049 --> 00:49:57,080 about and helps you win games. 1175 00:49:57,630 --> 00:50:02,790 Even Trey Young, again, he didn't take that, uh, 50 foot around the top of the 1176 00:50:02,790 --> 00:50:05,370 key when he could have off of a pick. 1177 00:50:06,630 --> 00:50:08,790 He, he, he pa he made a good pass. 1178 00:50:08,790 --> 00:50:10,130 He was throwing some Oozy. 1179 00:50:10,259 --> 00:50:15,180 Doosies wasn't . So I would like to see them keep that up. 1180 00:50:15,180 --> 00:50:16,470 We play the Knicks tonight. 1181 00:50:17,190 --> 00:50:19,890 We gonna be able to see tonight if that, if that 1182 00:50:19,890 --> 00:50:20,790 Other Guy: ridge Yeah. 1183 00:50:20,819 --> 00:50:24,390 We've won, uh, Hawks have won four a row and, and E Exactly right. 1184 00:50:24,420 --> 00:50:29,460 We passed the ball and, and it's helped everybody shoot ef well, everybody 1185 00:50:29,460 --> 00:50:33,480 except Trey, shoot efficiently above 50% because you pass around 1186 00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:37,110 to an open shot and we're not taking contested three pointers all day. 1187 00:50:37,810 --> 00:50:40,710 I, I just like we talked about at the very beginning of the season, 1188 00:50:40,710 --> 00:50:43,650 when, when we, you know, oh, is, is, is Murray gonna work out? 1189 00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:45,630 It's gonna work until it doesn't. 1190 00:50:45,779 --> 00:50:48,420 And I just, ah, I just hope that it does. 1191 00:50:48,424 --> 00:50:54,000 But I, I don't, I, I'm just not confident anything will truly happen until. 1192 00:50:54,509 --> 00:50:57,870 Either Nate and or Trey are, are, have moved on. 1193 00:50:58,350 --> 00:50:58,799 Well, 1194 00:50:59,100 --> 00:51:01,620 T-Bird: Trey ain't moving on and I'm gonna tell you why. 1195 00:51:01,620 --> 00:51:06,210 Because him and wrestler's son are the best of buds. 1196 00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:11,820 And he was one reason why Trey got his way, uh, with the decision 1197 00:51:11,820 --> 00:51:13,080 that were made in the front office. 1198 00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:14,759 And he probably gonna get his way with Nate. 1199 00:51:15,150 --> 00:51:21,240 But if Trey will understand that he don't have to score 50 points a night 1200 00:51:21,240 --> 00:51:26,279 for us to win like he did the other night, we gonna be a lot better team. 1201 00:51:26,490 --> 00:51:30,630 You not going to trade John Collins because he's gonna be more involved 1202 00:51:30,630 --> 00:51:32,460 and you going to get his skillset set. 1203 00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:33,660 You understand? 1204 00:51:34,020 --> 00:51:37,350 So that that's that's that's in my mind, dude. 1205 00:51:37,350 --> 00:51:39,360 I'm saying you're not gonna trade him because of that. 1206 00:51:39,630 --> 00:51:41,940 He plays a lot better when everybody touching the ball. 1207 00:51:42,150 --> 00:51:43,320 So Yeah, they're not double 1208 00:51:43,325 --> 00:51:43,620 Other Guy: cover. 1209 00:51:43,620 --> 00:51:45,000 They can't double cover Trey. 1210 00:51:45,060 --> 00:51:45,480 That's rights. 1211 00:51:45,759 --> 00:51:46,200 Not all the time. 1212 00:51:46,259 --> 00:51:49,200 T-Bird: That's, that's, and if Trey understands that, 1213 00:51:49,995 --> 00:51:51,584 We, we can do some things. 1214 00:51:51,825 --> 00:51:55,395 If Deandre Hunter ain't on the, on the engine list every 1215 00:51:55,395 --> 00:51:58,245 week, he can get his 1520. 1216 00:51:58,575 --> 00:52:01,455 And we got, we got double figures from everybody the other night, 1217 00:52:01,814 --> 00:52:03,765 Other Guy: which, which is something we haven't done that often, but it's 1218 00:52:03,765 --> 00:52:05,564 great because look how good we played. 1219 00:52:06,015 --> 00:52:08,714 But it, it's just, can, can we make that connection? 1220 00:52:08,714 --> 00:52:14,084 And, and I don't know if the team really has the trust in Nate for, even if he's 1221 00:52:14,084 --> 00:52:17,024 preaching that message, I don't think they're gonna, they're gonna absorb it. 1222 00:52:17,475 --> 00:52:17,924 I think 1223 00:52:17,930 --> 00:52:19,095 T-Bird: that I, I agree. 1224 00:52:19,214 --> 00:52:19,665 I'm sorry. 1225 00:52:19,665 --> 00:52:19,754 I 1226 00:52:19,759 --> 00:52:20,384 Other Guy: may interrupt. 1227 00:52:20,584 --> 00:52:24,375 So, so let me ask you this, Trey, do you think he was smart enough to kind 1228 00:52:24,375 --> 00:52:30,104 of see the landscape and became best friends with, with, um, with wrestlers, 1229 00:52:30,205 --> 00:52:35,294 with the son For, for just for this reason or, or is that just coincidence? 1230 00:52:35,325 --> 00:52:35,984 T-Bird: I don't know. 1231 00:52:35,984 --> 00:52:38,805 You know, it seemed like it was, and like Mo said, it seemed 1232 00:52:38,805 --> 00:52:41,084 like it was a total about face. 1233 00:52:41,924 --> 00:52:46,710 He, he, he wasn't even the cry baby and, uh, Trey, the other night, I, 1234 00:52:46,710 --> 00:52:51,090 I seen a completely different Trey, his persona was completely different. 1235 00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:52,740 Did, did you notice that Mo? 1236 00:52:52,770 --> 00:52:53,340 Commercial: I did. 1237 00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:56,310 Um, I think it's all an act. 1238 00:52:56,370 --> 00:52:58,920 I think at the end of the day he's still a cry baby. 1239 00:52:59,070 --> 00:53:01,290 He's, Trey is about Trey, right. 1240 00:53:01,290 --> 00:53:05,160 Um, if he, if he were really bosom buddies, um, why you buy 1241 00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:07,320 a house in, in, in California. 1242 00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:07,740 California, yeah. 1243 00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:12,840 Um, if you really have the intent to set down roots and become, um, 1244 00:53:12,870 --> 00:53:15,870 the face of the franchise, then you would invest in the communities 1245 00:53:16,050 --> 00:53:18,090 specifically as with real estate. 1246 00:53:18,090 --> 00:53:20,010 So, um, I think it's a flu. 1247 00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:21,900 I don't see the Hawks making the playoffs. 1248 00:53:21,900 --> 00:53:26,790 I'm hoping that they don't so that we can justify getting rid of Nate. 1249 00:53:26,795 --> 00:53:30,660 Because as long as Nate is the head coach, this roster will 1250 00:53:30,660 --> 00:53:32,070 never realize their potential. 1251 00:53:32,250 --> 00:53:32,760 I agree. 1252 00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:33,300 Because, 1253 00:53:33,300 --> 00:53:34,230 T-Bird: lemme tell you something. 1254 00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:37,020 Nate got big, what's the big white kid? 1255 00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:39,420 We got big col, krosky or whatever. 1256 00:53:40,170 --> 00:53:40,800 Okay. 1257 00:53:41,100 --> 00:53:42,720 This guy needs to play. 1258 00:53:43,395 --> 00:53:44,085 Commercial: You know why? 1259 00:53:44,355 --> 00:53:46,455 Because every time he comes in, 1260 00:53:46,815 --> 00:53:50,955 T-Bird: he plays well, he makes smart passes, he rebounds, he 1261 00:53:50,955 --> 00:53:52,485 does all the little bitty things. 1262 00:53:52,490 --> 00:53:54,135 He takes up room in the paint. 1263 00:53:54,315 --> 00:53:56,485 Nate won't play you. 1264 00:53:56,485 --> 00:53:59,325 You got, uh, uh, Jaylen Johnson. 1265 00:53:59,325 --> 00:54:00,825 Now we getting on the negative side. 1266 00:54:01,335 --> 00:54:03,525 Jaylen Johnson needs more minutes. 1267 00:54:03,525 --> 00:54:06,165 Some kinda way this kid can 1268 00:54:06,165 --> 00:54:07,425 Commercial: play and 1269 00:54:07,425 --> 00:54:09,125 T-Bird: he shows it from downtown. 1270 00:54:09,130 --> 00:54:10,365 You ever seen his dunks? 1271 00:54:10,755 --> 00:54:14,805 This boy is he, he got all the physical ability and he going 1272 00:54:14,805 --> 00:54:16,515 ride on that bench with Nate. 1273 00:54:16,545 --> 00:54:16,635 Mm-hmm. 1274 00:54:17,295 --> 00:54:17,445 . Other Guy: Yeah. 1275 00:54:17,450 --> 00:54:21,375 You, you've talked about, uh, about Jalen Johnson and, and John Collins 1276 00:54:21,375 --> 00:54:24,975 for, I mean, for two, well, at least John Collins for a couple years. 1277 00:54:24,975 --> 00:54:32,145 Like, I think at least now, the, the, the rest of us can see the 1278 00:54:32,150 --> 00:54:35,505 potential that have, it's just, it's just a matter of getting it through 1279 00:54:35,510 --> 00:54:39,735 to, to fruition here because yes, we, there is talent on the bench. 1280 00:54:39,735 --> 00:54:40,305 T-Bird: Yes. 1281 00:54:40,305 --> 00:54:41,445 And he don't plan. 1282 00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:43,950 And, and because he want to be Nate. 1283 00:54:44,430 --> 00:54:50,700 And have you ever heard his, when he's talking to them and, uh, doing a timeout, 1284 00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:53,221 hell don't nobody know what Nate's saying. 1285 00:54:53,790 --> 00:54:54,450 You know why? 1286 00:54:54,660 --> 00:54:57,480 Because he talks too proper. 1287 00:54:57,690 --> 00:54:58,710 He talks to Really? 1288 00:54:58,980 --> 00:54:59,400 Yeah. 1289 00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:04,470 Listen, when you talking to dogs, you gotta talk to 'em in dog language. 1290 00:55:04,540 --> 00:55:04,940 I can't 1291 00:55:04,940 --> 00:55:05,259 Commercial: deal with you. 1292 00:55:05,265 --> 00:55:05,910 You gotta talk to 1293 00:55:06,180 --> 00:55:07,100 T-Bird: em in dog language. 1294 00:55:07,380 --> 00:55:09,840 You, you know, we gotta get back on deep Nate. 1295 00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:11,640 Don't say we gotta get back on deep. 1296 00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:12,810 Okay? 1297 00:55:13,050 --> 00:55:16,420 We gotta get back and, and, and, and, and, 1298 00:55:16,420 --> 00:55:18,700 Commercial: and we gotta move the, that is the worst. 1299 00:55:19,060 --> 00:55:20,780 Nate, I'm just, I'm just 1300 00:55:20,780 --> 00:55:23,759 T-Bird: telling you, I hate his interviews because he, 1301 00:55:25,930 --> 00:55:27,420 Commercial: I I gotta have some dogs. 1302 00:55:27,420 --> 00:55:29,220 Can I, can I tell you what, what has happened? 1303 00:55:29,220 --> 00:55:31,740 Can I tell you why the hawks are temporarily playing? 1304 00:55:31,745 --> 00:55:32,400 Well, why? 1305 00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:33,450 Because here's the thing. 1306 00:55:34,020 --> 00:55:36,509 Um, again, I think that. 1307 00:55:36,915 --> 00:55:39,825 The players bought in to Nate starting off the year, I think he 1308 00:55:39,825 --> 00:55:43,575 was able to kind of motivate and say, all right guys, this is our year. 1309 00:55:44,354 --> 00:55:50,504 I think as the, as the season wore on there, we, there was obviously 1310 00:55:50,509 --> 00:55:52,305 a rep between him and Trey, right? 1311 00:55:52,435 --> 00:55:56,535 A, a disconnect, a definitely two different thought processes on how the 1312 00:55:56,535 --> 00:55:58,274 team should be played to be playing. 1313 00:55:58,814 --> 00:56:03,015 Um, and you had the other players kind of, I don't know, do we listen to the coach? 1314 00:56:03,015 --> 00:56:03,854 Do we listen to Trey? 1315 00:56:03,854 --> 00:56:04,754 Do we listen to coach? 1316 00:56:05,145 --> 00:56:09,705 I think the reason you're seeing them play well now is because there's been 1317 00:56:09,765 --> 00:56:15,584 a passing of the guard and Nate no longer has control of that locker room. 1318 00:56:15,584 --> 00:56:20,834 Trey does, and right now all the players are buying in to Trey's philosophy. 1319 00:56:21,345 --> 00:56:26,984 So Nate kind of has really no choice but to play along, play nice. 1320 00:56:27,314 --> 00:56:30,645 Um, but because Trey is selfish, that being the leader of a 1321 00:56:30,645 --> 00:56:32,084 team is not what he wants. 1322 00:56:32,415 --> 00:56:34,335 Being his own brand is what Trey wants. 1323 00:56:34,365 --> 00:56:34,935 I agree. 1324 00:56:34,995 --> 00:56:39,405 So we'll see how long he's able to really, truly lead when he is selfish. 1325 00:56:39,405 --> 00:56:41,325 So that's what I think. 1326 00:56:41,655 --> 00:56:42,645 T-Bird: Did you have to finish? 1327 00:56:43,155 --> 00:56:45,105 Other Guy: No, I, that's a very fair point, Mo. 1328 00:56:45,105 --> 00:56:46,725 I mean, well said. 1329 00:56:46,725 --> 00:56:48,525 I, I, I agree. 1330 00:56:48,585 --> 00:56:50,565 Well, I, I got nothing more . Yeah. 1331 00:56:50,955 --> 00:56:52,125 Producer Dex: And she's spoken in that good 1332 00:56:52,125 --> 00:56:52,575 T-Bird: English too. 1333 00:56:52,935 --> 00:56:53,655 Yeah. 1334 00:56:53,660 --> 00:56:53,685 Yeah. 1335 00:56:55,605 --> 00:56:57,645 , you still gotta talk in that dog. 1336 00:56:57,855 --> 00:56:58,395 Here we go. 1337 00:56:58,455 --> 00:56:59,565 Producer Dex: Not if you want a job in 1338 00:56:59,565 --> 00:57:00,105 Commercial: America. 1339 00:57:00,135 --> 00:57:00,615 Right. 1340 00:57:01,005 --> 00:57:02,865 Alright, we're gonna take a quick break and be back. 1341 00:57:02,865 --> 00:57:04,725 We'll have most time out and wrap things up. 1342 00:57:04,730 --> 00:57:05,355 Y'all stick with us. 1343 00:57:28,020 --> 00:57:30,509 T-Bird: Hey, this is T-Bird from the Couch Potato Sports Report. 1344 00:57:31,049 --> 00:57:35,490 I think about Atlanta sports all the time, but I talk about them every Friday 1345 00:57:35,490 --> 00:57:38,129 at 6:00 PM Eastern here on pod games. 1346 00:57:38,910 --> 00:57:39,690 Follow the link. 1347 00:57:40,379 --> 00:57:44,430 Join myself, Mo, and the other guy as we'll. 1348 00:57:44,430 --> 00:57:48,839 Discuss all Atlanta sports from the Braves to the Hawks and 1349 00:57:48,839 --> 00:57:53,549 the Falcons, again showing me T-Bird with Mo and the other guy. 1350 00:57:53,700 --> 00:57:58,290 Every Friday on 6:00 PM live, the episodes will be available on 1351 00:57:58,290 --> 00:58:00,000 Spotify, apple, and wherever you 1352 00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:00,390 Commercial: listen. 1353 00:58:08,580 --> 00:58:12,390 When shopping for homeowners insurance, understand that any 1354 00:58:12,390 --> 00:58:14,460 broker can bundle to save you money. 1355 00:58:15,870 --> 00:58:20,700 The Levette Group takes insurance further with personalized agent attention. 1356 00:58:21,780 --> 00:58:25,860 We are always available to advocate for you and your family when 1357 00:58:25,860 --> 00:58:29,070 processing claims and adjusting for your insurance requirements. 1358 00:58:30,270 --> 00:58:33,630 Call me Todd Dean to find the best package that fits you. 1359 00:58:34,980 --> 00:58:40,331 I can be reached at 6 7 8 7 7 7 7 7 1 8. 1360 00:58:41,250 --> 00:58:49,730 Again, I'm Todd Taino Levette Group and you can reach me at 6 7 8 7 7 7 7 7 1 8. 1361 00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:05,580 We are back here on the Ate for Support. 1362 00:59:05,580 --> 00:59:06,779 Been a good evening. 1363 00:59:06,779 --> 00:59:07,890 Good conversation guys. 1364 00:59:07,895 --> 00:59:09,420 Good debate, good thoughts. 1365 00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:13,020 Um, really been nice, but I wanna take a time. 1366 00:59:13,020 --> 00:59:13,410 Timeout. 1367 00:59:14,370 --> 00:59:19,050 Um, we kind of touched on it when we talked about the N I L, we kind of 1368 00:59:19,050 --> 00:59:22,650 talked about it, talking about Trey Young, but it really got me to thinking 1369 00:59:22,710 --> 00:59:28,980 about how there's been this evolution of the player into, and we've kind 1370 00:59:28,980 --> 00:59:30,210 of talked about this a little bit. 1371 00:59:30,210 --> 00:59:34,080 It's, it's not even about being a professional, uh, 1372 00:59:34,085 --> 00:59:35,850 professional ball ballplayer. 1373 00:59:35,850 --> 00:59:41,100 It's about realizing and promoting and really being able to capitalize 1374 00:59:41,105 --> 00:59:49,380 on your brand, um, with more athletes, um, becoming aware of their brand. 1375 00:59:50,805 --> 00:59:54,465 Now oftentimes it's the routine, whether it be on the college level 1376 00:59:54,825 --> 00:59:59,415 that you're playing with Georgia, Stetson Bennett, he, he's graduated. 1377 00:59:59,595 --> 01:00:04,185 So how does he capitalize on all of, he's done, I think you've said it 1378 01:00:04,190 --> 01:00:07,335 before, T Bird, yo, he could, they're going already building his statue. 1379 01:00:07,725 --> 01:00:11,235 If he wanted to run for president, or at least senator, he's not gonna have 1380 01:00:11,235 --> 01:00:12,615 the problems that Herschel Walker did. 1381 01:00:12,615 --> 01:00:12,705 Right. 1382 01:00:12,765 --> 01:00:18,015 He's gonna, he's gonna win in a landslide because there's brand recognition. 1383 01:00:19,965 --> 01:00:23,535 But the question kind of becomes like, who owns the brand? 1384 01:00:23,535 --> 01:00:30,525 If, if, if Johns Cooper, boom, boo, you know, Jonas 1385 01:00:34,665 --> 01:00:36,465 he's the face of a franchise. 1386 01:00:36,465 --> 01:00:36,795 Yeah. 1387 01:00:36,825 --> 01:00:37,305 Right. 1388 01:00:37,305 --> 01:00:37,585 Yeah. 1389 01:00:37,590 --> 01:00:42,225 So, Does that franchise own his brand or is it because he's a great 1390 01:00:42,225 --> 01:00:45,165 player and he's, he's an all star and he's won the championship. 1391 01:00:45,435 --> 01:00:47,955 Can he take that and parlay that into something else? 1392 01:00:48,015 --> 01:00:49,095 Is that his right? 1393 01:00:49,335 --> 01:00:53,355 Again, off of the back of a team or being a part of a team? 1394 01:00:53,895 --> 01:00:57,045 It, it's you, you're the brand, you're why people are coming to the games. 1395 01:00:57,045 --> 01:00:59,865 You're why people are filling up the stands and buying the merchandise. 1396 01:01:00,405 --> 01:01:02,985 But, but do you exclusively own that brand? 1397 01:01:03,405 --> 01:01:07,935 And if you exclusively own that brand, do you have any and all rights to that brand? 1398 01:01:09,615 --> 01:01:10,965 You know, you're saying Yes. 1399 01:01:10,965 --> 01:01:11,115 I think it does. 1400 01:01:11,115 --> 01:01:11,715 I think it 1401 01:01:11,715 --> 01:01:11,955 T-Bird: does. 1402 01:01:12,765 --> 01:01:16,665 I, I think, uh, can I, are you Yeah, go ahead. 1403 01:01:16,665 --> 01:01:17,225 Commercial: Go, go. 1404 01:01:17,655 --> 01:01:17,805 I 1405 01:01:17,805 --> 01:01:20,685 T-Bird: think you, you built that brand now. 1406 01:01:20,685 --> 01:01:21,165 Yeah. 1407 01:01:21,225 --> 01:01:22,725 The, the, the school. 1408 01:01:23,145 --> 01:01:23,925 Put you out there. 1409 01:01:24,015 --> 01:01:24,405 Right. 1410 01:01:24,645 --> 01:01:24,975 Okay. 1411 01:01:24,975 --> 01:01:28,965 But it's just like a, in, uh, a high, uh, college player, when he leaves 1412 01:01:28,965 --> 01:01:31,305 that school, he goes to the N F L. 1413 01:01:31,325 --> 01:01:31,805 Mm-hmm. 1414 01:01:31,890 --> 01:01:35,235 . So therefore his brand goes to the N F L with him. 1415 01:01:35,395 --> 01:01:35,885 Okay. 1416 01:01:35,895 --> 01:01:36,525 And everything. 1417 01:01:36,525 --> 01:01:37,515 He does it. 1418 01:01:37,575 --> 01:01:39,195 We ain't talking about Georgia no more. 1419 01:01:39,465 --> 01:01:43,155 We talking about him and that team he's at. 1420 01:01:43,455 --> 01:01:43,995 Okay. 1421 01:01:44,385 --> 01:01:49,425 So, yeah, I think he, he, when he leaves his brand leaves, can they still, 1422 01:01:49,875 --> 01:01:51,705 uh, sell stuff with his name on it? 1423 01:01:52,155 --> 01:01:52,575 He can. 1424 01:01:52,580 --> 01:01:53,115 Okay. 1425 01:01:53,115 --> 01:01:56,385 That And they, they gonna give him a percentage of that jersey. 1426 01:01:56,805 --> 01:02:01,965 Commercial: So does the, the power of the brand, does it transcend that sport? 1427 01:02:02,185 --> 01:02:05,475 Because let's, let's use Colin Kaepernick as an example. 1428 01:02:05,685 --> 01:02:09,735 You know, he played for the 49ers, he was the quarterback, and then he started 1429 01:02:09,735 --> 01:02:15,405 a political, um, statement becoming an activist and it cost his career dearly. 1430 01:02:15,435 --> 01:02:15,735 Yeah. 1431 01:02:15,915 --> 01:02:19,035 I don't really see him selling Cheetos and Cokes on TV right 1432 01:02:19,035 --> 01:02:21,075 now, even though he is a brand og. 1433 01:02:21,075 --> 01:02:26,069 So again, He made a choice to use his brand for a personal 1434 01:02:26,075 --> 01:02:27,779 cause, but at what cost? 1435 01:02:27,779 --> 01:02:29,790 So again, did he really own the brand? 1436 01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:36,270 Other Guy: That's a good question and I, I think you've got to, to 1437 01:02:36,390 --> 01:02:40,920 kind of build a brand into this, you know, mega like, truly company. 1438 01:02:41,370 --> 01:02:45,720 You've gotta be a great player and, and you've got to have, you 1439 01:02:45,720 --> 01:02:47,490 know, attention and, and all that. 1440 01:02:47,609 --> 01:02:49,170 Like, look at LeBron for example. 1441 01:02:49,650 --> 01:02:55,500 LeBron had name recognition in high school and then, you know, just every 1442 01:02:55,500 --> 01:03:00,690 team he's went to in the N B A, he's continued to build upon that brand. 1443 01:03:00,690 --> 01:03:05,279 So, I mean, he's, he owns it and it's, it's followed him as he's, 1444 01:03:05,279 --> 01:03:08,640 as he's moved around the league and will continue to long after. 1445 01:03:10,005 --> 01:03:11,505 He's made a business out of it. 1446 01:03:11,505 --> 01:03:14,355 I mean, he, he, that's a billion dollar, I think it was a, he's 1447 01:03:14,355 --> 01:03:16,755 a billionaire, a billion dollars a year, something like that. 1448 01:03:16,755 --> 01:03:21,345 He's a billionaire, but it's because he continues to build 1449 01:03:21,345 --> 01:03:23,895 and, and invest in his brand. 1450 01:03:23,895 --> 01:03:23,985 Mm-hmm. 1451 01:03:24,235 --> 01:03:28,545 . But his brand, any, if you're the worst player on the team, you're 1452 01:03:28,545 --> 01:03:30,165 not gonna have that mega brand. 1453 01:03:30,645 --> 01:03:34,185 So you've got, you've gotta be good enough to, to kind of build it up 1454 01:03:34,185 --> 01:03:37,785 and have the fandom, but then it, it's kind of a, you know, a catch 1455 01:03:37,785 --> 01:03:39,555 22, it's, both things have to happen. 1456 01:03:39,585 --> 01:03:39,945 T-Bird: Mm-hmm. 1457 01:03:40,245 --> 01:03:46,815 the difference in Kaepernick and Stetson Bennett and, um, who was the other guy? 1458 01:03:46,815 --> 01:03:47,355 You said 1459 01:03:47,685 --> 01:03:48,105 Commercial: Colin 1460 01:03:48,525 --> 01:03:49,635 T-Bird: Kaepernick, you. 1461 01:03:49,755 --> 01:03:50,085 Yeah. 1462 01:03:50,085 --> 01:03:51,435 Well anyway, I'm lost. 1463 01:03:51,435 --> 01:04:00,225 But the difference in that is Bennett's brand is big and wide because he's liked, 1464 01:04:00,885 --> 01:04:07,185 you understand LeBron's brand is big and wide because he's liked all the kids. 1465 01:04:07,185 --> 01:04:07,755 Think about LeBron. 1466 01:04:08,625 --> 01:04:13,125 Kaepernick's brand is, he's only liked by a few. 1467 01:04:14,055 --> 01:04:17,444 That's why his brand got him to wear. 1468 01:04:17,505 --> 01:04:21,015 He's a, because of what he was doing. 1469 01:04:22,484 --> 01:04:23,444 He lost it. 1470 01:04:23,444 --> 01:04:24,045 Fizzled out. 1471 01:04:24,075 --> 01:04:24,525 It fell. 1472 01:04:24,529 --> 01:04:30,734 Yeah, because he wasn't, the majority didn't agree with what he was doing. 1473 01:04:30,734 --> 01:04:31,785 You understand what I'm saying? 1474 01:04:31,995 --> 01:04:36,255 So when the majority you getting it from both sides like you, 1475 01:04:36,464 --> 01:04:40,365 because you winning football games and see it ain't no political 1476 01:04:40,365 --> 01:04:42,765 aspect, then hell, we won the game. 1477 01:04:42,944 --> 01:04:46,275 Whether you, Republican, democrat, or independent, Hey, 1478 01:04:46,275 --> 01:04:47,475 we all hollering over here. 1479 01:04:47,475 --> 01:04:52,875 But then when you start something where people feel like there's a division, 1480 01:04:53,325 --> 01:04:55,185 your brand ain't gonna pop like theirs. 1481 01:04:55,295 --> 01:04:55,615 Mm-hmm. 1482 01:04:56,069 --> 01:04:57,120 That's my opinion on 1483 01:04:57,120 --> 01:04:57,270 Commercial: that. 1484 01:04:57,330 --> 01:05:01,140 But, but we've seen, and we've seen LeBron make public statements 1485 01:05:01,140 --> 01:05:03,419 on issues outside of basketball. 1486 01:05:03,419 --> 01:05:06,750 We've had pundits say, Hey, just shut up and play. 1487 01:05:06,839 --> 01:05:09,750 You know, it's about basketball for you play your sport. 1488 01:05:09,754 --> 01:05:11,129 You're not an expert or the other. 1489 01:05:11,640 --> 01:05:16,140 But I think it's, it's really, and we, we think back to when with the decision. 1490 01:05:16,319 --> 01:05:16,529 Yeah. 1491 01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:20,970 And how LeBron monetized that because he understood, even if 1492 01:05:20,970 --> 01:05:23,939 folks wouldn't say it, they were very, very, very much interested. 1493 01:05:24,299 --> 01:05:27,209 And what he did, if you really think about it, was actually pretty brilliant, 1494 01:05:27,214 --> 01:05:31,529 even though it seemed, um, egotistical, the proceeds went to a nonprofit. 1495 01:05:31,529 --> 01:05:33,959 So it's not like he was quote, making money off of that. 1496 01:05:33,959 --> 01:05:37,169 He just recognized that people had an interest. 1497 01:05:37,174 --> 01:05:41,339 And so I think he's done a good job with he, his business ventures. 1498 01:05:41,580 --> 01:05:43,830 I wouldn't make him a billionaire, not him playing basketball. 1499 01:05:43,830 --> 01:05:43,919 Right. 1500 01:05:43,924 --> 01:05:46,680 So he's been smart about how he's managed his brand. 1501 01:05:48,029 --> 01:05:52,230 Really piggybacked off of the public perception of his brand 1502 01:05:52,230 --> 01:05:54,120 versus what he personally feels. 1503 01:05:54,120 --> 01:05:55,589 And I think that's kind of, yeah. 1504 01:05:55,589 --> 01:05:57,450 Again, do you really own it? 1505 01:05:57,450 --> 01:06:01,529 If you can't really speak and live your truth according to the brand that you 1506 01:06:01,529 --> 01:06:05,310 helped create, um, you're not able to really create that brand without, of 1507 01:06:05,314 --> 01:06:07,859 course, public feedback or recognition. 1508 01:06:08,149 --> 01:06:08,850 But yeah. 1509 01:06:08,850 --> 01:06:11,189 T-Bird: But in Kaepernick's mind, he was speaking his truth. 1510 01:06:11,250 --> 01:06:11,609 Mm-hmm. 1511 01:06:11,689 --> 01:06:12,129 . Mm-hmm. 1512 01:06:12,210 --> 01:06:12,660 , you understand? 1513 01:06:12,740 --> 01:06:17,700 So in his mind, he was speaking his truth and, and his brand suffered. 1514 01:06:17,879 --> 01:06:17,970 Mm-hmm. 1515 01:06:18,330 --> 01:06:20,759 because a, a lot of people didn't agree with his 1516 01:06:20,765 --> 01:06:22,680 Commercial: truth because what did they want from him? 1517 01:06:23,160 --> 01:06:24,180 They wanted him to play. 1518 01:06:24,180 --> 01:06:25,089 They wanted, they wanted him 1519 01:06:25,089 --> 01:06:25,529 T-Bird: to shut up. 1520 01:06:25,529 --> 01:06:26,580 They wanted him play Shut 1521 01:06:26,580 --> 01:06:26,700 Commercial: up. 1522 01:06:26,700 --> 01:06:28,169 Now, did he really own the brand? 1523 01:06:28,169 --> 01:06:28,710 If he couldn't? 1524 01:06:28,710 --> 01:06:31,140 Cause again, LeBron was able to do that. 1525 01:06:31,230 --> 01:06:34,649 He was able to rebound from the decision, and it probably is making even more money. 1526 01:06:34,649 --> 01:06:35,430 So, but that, 1527 01:06:35,700 --> 01:06:39,180 Other Guy: I think LeBron, the decision with LeBron and the 1528 01:06:39,180 --> 01:06:42,299 Kaepernick, I think they're, they're different because Kaepernick. 1529 01:06:42,645 --> 01:06:46,695 Stepped way outside of football in his, in his kind of statement. 1530 01:06:47,025 --> 01:06:50,055 But LeBron's decision was still in and around basketball. 1531 01:06:50,175 --> 01:06:54,705 And, and that's, his brain has always started basketball at the 1532 01:06:54,705 --> 01:06:57,015 core and has since expanded out. 1533 01:06:57,020 --> 01:07:00,195 But Kaepernick went way outside of football. 1534 01:07:00,195 --> 01:07:03,395 It's just, it was unrelated to football and 1535 01:07:03,395 --> 01:07:09,585 T-Bird: it, and in my opinion, uh, what Kaepernick did I agree with, okay. 1536 01:07:09,645 --> 01:07:09,825 Mm-hmm. 1537 01:07:10,070 --> 01:07:15,405 . But, but see a lot of people, they don't even understand that side of it. 1538 01:07:15,525 --> 01:07:15,675 Mm-hmm. 1539 01:07:15,915 --> 01:07:17,355 that understand a lot of people. 1540 01:07:17,685 --> 01:07:19,385 They kept trying to make it about the flag. 1541 01:07:19,385 --> 01:07:20,425 It wasn't about the flag. 1542 01:07:20,425 --> 01:07:20,785 Mm-hmm. 1543 01:07:21,165 --> 01:07:21,435 , it 1544 01:07:21,435 --> 01:07:21,915 Commercial: never 1545 01:07:21,915 --> 01:07:25,575 T-Bird: was about the flag, but they, they used their own narrative 1546 01:07:25,815 --> 01:07:27,195 to make it about the flag. 1547 01:07:27,195 --> 01:07:29,945 So therefore you ne you had the negative. 1548 01:07:31,275 --> 01:07:33,885 Of people catching on to that and saying 1549 01:07:33,885 --> 01:07:34,155 Commercial: that. 1550 01:07:34,215 --> 01:07:35,475 So who ruined the brand? 1551 01:07:35,475 --> 01:07:37,875 Did he or public perception from speaking is truth. 1552 01:07:37,905 --> 01:07:38,595 The ignorant, 1553 01:07:38,595 --> 01:07:40,365 Other Guy: uh, Americans probably did. 1554 01:07:40,455 --> 01:07:41,175 I agree with that. 1555 01:07:41,175 --> 01:07:41,666 T-Bird: So did he 1556 01:07:41,671 --> 01:07:42,765 Commercial: ever own the brand then? 1557 01:07:42,765 --> 01:07:44,205 If they were able to take it from him? 1558 01:07:44,745 --> 01:07:45,555 You owned it. 1559 01:07:45,735 --> 01:07:46,665 T-Bird: It just didn't fly. 1560 01:07:46,670 --> 01:07:50,145 Other Guy: But, but he, he changed his brand from football player to 1561 01:07:50,145 --> 01:07:51,345 Commercial: advocate, to advocate. 1562 01:07:51,350 --> 01:07:51,735 Again. 1563 01:07:51,735 --> 01:07:54,705 I don't see him monetizing and getting any sponsorships as a result. 1564 01:07:54,765 --> 01:07:56,355 Have y'all seen his Netflix special? 1565 01:07:56,925 --> 01:07:57,975 I ain't right. 1566 01:07:57,975 --> 01:07:58,635 Exactly. 1567 01:07:58,725 --> 01:07:58,995 Yeah. 1568 01:07:59,085 --> 01:07:59,565 But 1569 01:08:00,345 --> 01:08:04,845 T-Bird: again, the, the, the, it just didn't fly. 1570 01:08:04,905 --> 01:08:06,935 Like I can start a brand mm-hmm. 1571 01:08:07,015 --> 01:08:07,995 and it may not work. 1572 01:08:08,415 --> 01:08:09,585 . Other Guy: Yeah, it didn't work. 1573 01:08:09,645 --> 01:08:09,825 Yeah. 1574 01:08:09,825 --> 01:08:10,485 It could fail. 1575 01:08:10,485 --> 01:08:12,015 You know, his, his, you know what I mean? 1576 01:08:12,015 --> 01:08:13,815 His product essentially failed. 1577 01:08:13,905 --> 01:08:16,635 Commercial: It's the, it's the, I call it, it's because it's, 1578 01:08:16,635 --> 01:08:19,245 it's, it's, it's strategic. 1579 01:08:19,335 --> 01:08:23,215 I call it the Magic Johnson strategy of, all right, you're the, you're the 1580 01:08:23,220 --> 01:08:25,575 face of the N B A and, and quietly. 1581 01:08:25,899 --> 01:08:27,000 , you're buying up real estate. 1582 01:08:27,005 --> 01:08:28,580 You're buying, you know, buying. 1583 01:08:28,580 --> 01:08:31,200 Yeah, you're doing, you're investing, you're doing that over there. 1584 01:08:31,200 --> 01:08:33,210 Shaq, Shaq has done a great job of that too. 1585 01:08:33,210 --> 01:08:33,990 Super job. 1586 01:08:33,995 --> 01:08:38,430 Um, but so again, we have generations that are watching this 1587 01:08:38,490 --> 01:08:40,859 and being more strategic and smart. 1588 01:08:40,859 --> 01:08:43,740 Cause again, you learn from history, you learn from what 1589 01:08:43,740 --> 01:08:45,269 you see, and you build on that. 1590 01:08:45,540 --> 01:08:51,149 So you have these kids who now have these YouTube channels and these videos where 1591 01:08:51,149 --> 01:08:55,290 they have these compilations of them, you know, making plays or, or balling out 1592 01:08:55,290 --> 01:08:58,769 and they're getting millions of views and they're getting all of these followers. 1593 01:08:58,859 --> 01:08:58,979 And 1594 01:08:58,979 --> 01:09:01,920 T-Bird: what's the first thing they say when you talk to 'em And they 1595 01:09:01,920 --> 01:09:04,319 on YouTube that what are they doing? 1596 01:09:05,010 --> 01:09:06,080 They building their, what? 1597 01:09:06,439 --> 01:09:06,990 Building their brand. 1598 01:09:06,995 --> 01:09:07,479 Commercial: They're build their brand. 1599 01:09:07,484 --> 01:09:11,099 So again, it's, it has started well before. 1600 01:09:11,099 --> 01:09:14,099 They're, they're, they're being accepted into these colleges. 1601 01:09:14,460 --> 01:09:19,290 They are owning their own brand and creating their own trajectory. 1602 01:09:19,590 --> 01:09:23,010 Wish they have a right to do if they're being strategic about it. 1603 01:09:23,069 --> 01:09:27,060 Cuz again, It's not necessarily being the professional athlete, it's not 1604 01:09:27,060 --> 01:09:34,200 necessarily, um, it's not necessarily, um, playing the sport that you love. 1605 01:09:34,205 --> 01:09:38,460 It's understanding that when it comes to your skillset yeah. 1606 01:09:38,490 --> 01:09:41,580 You should be able to maximize that for your own benefit. 1607 01:09:41,670 --> 01:09:41,820 Right. 1608 01:09:41,825 --> 01:09:44,040 In your own way, on your own terms. 1609 01:09:44,040 --> 01:09:48,360 But it's a, it's a delicate balance because you can either 1610 01:09:48,660 --> 01:09:50,730 become a slave to the brand Yeah. 1611 01:09:50,730 --> 01:09:55,890 Or you can truly own and have that ban, have that brand branch out into 1612 01:09:55,890 --> 01:09:59,070 ways that are kind of gonna benefit you beyond the sport that you're playing. 1613 01:09:59,370 --> 01:09:59,550 Yeah. 1614 01:09:59,555 --> 01:10:03,270 Other Guy: When early on you build your brand around your, your sport or your 1615 01:10:03,270 --> 01:10:09,270 craft, but it, it's just like, , like Apple made computers first and then they 1616 01:10:09,270 --> 01:10:13,010 switched their brand and made phones and that could have crashed and burned. 1617 01:10:13,010 --> 01:10:13,210 Mm-hmm. 1618 01:10:13,290 --> 01:10:14,790 . And, and that's kind of the difference we're talking about here. 1619 01:10:14,820 --> 01:10:17,280 Kaepernick's crashed and burned, but several others have 1620 01:10:17,280 --> 01:10:18,930 continued to perpetuate mm-hmm. 1621 01:10:19,170 --> 01:10:23,400 . And it's just, you, it's taken a risk on if you wanna change that brand and 1622 01:10:23,405 --> 01:10:28,200 have it evolve, or is your brand built around con your sport or your craft 1623 01:10:29,010 --> 01:10:29,160 Commercial: brand? 1624 01:10:29,370 --> 01:10:30,570 Nothing's traditional anymore. 1625 01:10:30,630 --> 01:10:35,210 So in order to capitalize on your brand, it has to be a collective property. 1626 01:10:35,220 --> 01:10:35,550 Yeah. 1627 01:10:36,210 --> 01:10:37,020 That's kind of sad. 1628 01:10:37,320 --> 01:10:38,160 Yeah, that's true. 1629 01:10:38,160 --> 01:10:38,280 I 1630 01:10:38,280 --> 01:10:41,340 T-Bird: mean, it's, nothing's traditional anymore. 1631 01:10:41,370 --> 01:10:41,430 Yeah. 1632 01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:42,660 Nothing is 1633 01:10:42,660 --> 01:10:42,840 Other Guy: it? 1634 01:10:42,845 --> 01:10:43,250 Yeah. 1635 01:10:43,470 --> 01:10:43,710 Yeah. 1636 01:10:43,710 --> 01:10:49,290 But why do I wanna, or, or you know, whatever your bra, if if it's not 1637 01:10:49,800 --> 01:10:52,650 something that I'm interested in, like if I didn't like basketball, 1638 01:10:52,650 --> 01:10:53,550 I wouldn't watch basketball. 1639 01:10:53,550 --> 01:10:56,910 But if your brand's not associated with basketball, I'm 1640 01:10:56,915 --> 01:10:58,380 not interested in, in watching. 1641 01:10:59,010 --> 01:10:59,280 Commercial: Yeah. 1642 01:10:59,820 --> 01:11:01,800 But by then it's it's name. 1643 01:11:01,800 --> 01:11:03,010 If, if. 1644 01:11:04,290 --> 01:11:05,429 and we've seen him do this. 1645 01:11:05,429 --> 01:11:10,200 Think about, think about Shaq again using his brand, collective brand. 1646 01:11:10,620 --> 01:11:14,700 Um, peop people, people fill out with Papa John's for a while, right. 1647 01:11:14,705 --> 01:11:21,000 And yeah, he stepped in and become a face and literally will show up and pop up. 1648 01:11:21,000 --> 01:11:24,780 And because of that brand, people now are gravitating and I'm sure 1649 01:11:24,785 --> 01:11:26,670 that's translating to dollars. 1650 01:11:26,820 --> 01:11:29,070 You know, he's not on the basketball court anymore. 1651 01:11:29,250 --> 01:11:30,570 He's bigger than basketball 1652 01:11:30,570 --> 01:11:30,929 T-Bird: now. 1653 01:11:31,440 --> 01:11:33,360 I don't, I don't eat Papa Johns no more. 1654 01:11:33,630 --> 01:11:33,809 Producer Dex: Yeah. 1655 01:11:33,809 --> 01:11:37,830 But it's, it like Apple it, they're not a computer company. 1656 01:11:37,830 --> 01:11:39,090 They're an ecosystem. 1657 01:11:39,885 --> 01:11:41,985 and it's the same thing with, you know, with Shaq. 1658 01:11:41,985 --> 01:11:42,045 Yeah. 1659 01:11:42,075 --> 01:11:46,305 Or with any, even, you know, uh, rock stars, you know, they, they may 1660 01:11:46,305 --> 01:11:49,305 make an album, but then they also play concerts and they sell merch 1661 01:11:49,665 --> 01:11:51,585 and they act, show up and they act. 1662 01:11:51,615 --> 01:11:53,805 You know, it's, it's never one thing anymore. 1663 01:11:53,805 --> 01:11:56,955 That's why a lot of these entertainers are getting 360 deals. 1664 01:11:57,225 --> 01:11:57,645 So Yeah. 1665 01:11:57,645 --> 01:11:58,545 It makes sense. 1666 01:11:58,575 --> 01:12:00,315 You know, it, what is your brand? 1667 01:12:00,315 --> 01:12:01,125 What are you known for? 1668 01:12:01,125 --> 01:12:03,075 You can be known for a lot of different things. 1669 01:12:03,105 --> 01:12:03,195 Mm-hmm. 1670 01:12:03,435 --> 01:12:06,075 and people can reach you in a lot of different ways, and that's the 1671 01:12:06,075 --> 01:12:10,455 best way to, you know, insulate yourself from a lot of problems. 1672 01:12:10,485 --> 01:12:10,575 Mm-hmm. 1673 01:12:10,820 --> 01:12:12,255 by diversifying your revenue. 1674 01:12:12,345 --> 01:12:15,495 T-Bird: And if you'll look at that, it's the first rule of business. 1675 01:12:15,735 --> 01:12:17,535 Create multiple ways of income. 1676 01:12:17,540 --> 01:12:17,925 Absolutely. 1677 01:12:17,955 --> 01:12:19,455 That's the first rule of business. 1678 01:12:19,455 --> 01:12:19,875 Absolutely. 1679 01:12:19,995 --> 01:12:21,435 So, and that's what you do. 1680 01:12:22,125 --> 01:12:22,395 Yeah. 1681 01:12:22,635 --> 01:12:24,285 So they, who did you have somebody? 1682 01:12:25,259 --> 01:12:25,620 Uh, 1683 01:12:25,650 --> 01:12:27,990 Producer Dex: no, I'm just chatting with some chatters. 1684 01:12:28,530 --> 01:12:29,910 . Commercial: Here's, so here's the thing. 1685 01:12:30,300 --> 01:12:34,469 In order to capitalize on your brand, you have to sacrifice your own 1686 01:12:34,980 --> 01:12:39,719 personal motivations and understand that as long as you either invest 1687 01:12:39,719 --> 01:12:44,969 in or promote entire yourself to what people like or what's trend. 1688 01:12:45,139 --> 01:12:45,540 Right? 1689 01:12:45,545 --> 01:12:45,719 Right. 1690 01:12:45,780 --> 01:12:46,530 You're good to go. 1691 01:12:46,530 --> 01:12:50,219 But do you sell your soul at that call stand because Colin Kaepernick 1692 01:12:50,280 --> 01:12:52,440 huge sacrifice or huge sacrifice. 1693 01:12:52,440 --> 01:12:53,460 You can a, align 1694 01:12:53,460 --> 01:12:56,160 Producer Dex: your, uh, align your, um, your goals. 1695 01:12:56,730 --> 01:12:59,460 You know, because some people, they never had the goal to be 1696 01:12:59,460 --> 01:13:01,500 a, uh, you know, an activist. 1697 01:13:01,980 --> 01:13:02,370 Right. 1698 01:13:02,639 --> 01:13:06,389 Colin got pissed at, you know, how the police are treating black folks and, 1699 01:13:06,690 --> 01:13:08,860 you know, that was his goal and he 1700 01:13:08,950 --> 01:13:10,059 T-Bird: do it through football. 1701 01:13:10,059 --> 01:13:12,300 He had to know that that could be a sacrifice. 1702 01:13:12,630 --> 01:13:12,990 Yeah. 1703 01:13:13,080 --> 01:13:16,830 Because it's not popular that that's not popular. 1704 01:13:16,950 --> 01:13:17,429 Wow. 1705 01:13:17,670 --> 01:13:18,330 Commercial: Thanks guys. 1706 01:13:18,929 --> 01:13:20,309 That was a good time out Mo. 1707 01:13:20,340 --> 01:13:20,490 Yeah. 1708 01:13:20,490 --> 01:13:25,575 You know, well, back to, back to wrapping things up, um, Look 1709 01:13:25,905 --> 01:13:27,615 their favorite sport soccer. 1710 01:13:27,795 --> 01:13:27,855 Yeah. 1711 01:13:27,945 --> 01:13:30,975 Um, Atlanta United, Joseph Martinez is gone. 1712 01:13:31,215 --> 01:13:36,765 Um, do we even have a fighting chance to even have a 500 year hope? 1713 01:13:36,795 --> 01:13:38,025 Will there be any moves? 1714 01:13:38,030 --> 01:13:39,735 What does this mean for Atlanta United? 1715 01:13:39,740 --> 01:13:40,485 Take that dick. 1716 01:13:40,815 --> 01:13:41,385 They 1717 01:13:41,385 --> 01:13:43,625 Producer Dex: got a backup goalkeeper. 1718 01:13:44,265 --> 01:13:48,585 Um, who's, you know, he's been kind of going around, uh, Clemont dup. 1719 01:13:48,735 --> 01:13:50,985 He, uh, he's been going around m mls for a while. 1720 01:13:51,555 --> 01:13:55,125 Um, I, I don't really know much about him to be quite honest with you, but, 1721 01:13:55,155 --> 01:13:59,925 um, Brad Gza should be healed up by the time the season comes in, um, 1722 01:13:59,925 --> 01:14:02,175 with, uh, miles Robinson coming back. 1723 01:14:02,175 --> 01:14:04,455 That should help shore up the defense a little bit. 1724 01:14:04,515 --> 01:14:09,045 Um, we really gotta see who all they bring in as far as forwards. 1725 01:14:09,135 --> 01:14:11,505 Um, I dunno, it's, it's hard to say. 1726 01:14:11,505 --> 01:14:18,465 It's, it's gonna be tough because part of the problem is they sent Joseph to, you 1727 01:14:18,470 --> 01:14:21,105 know, a, an in league rival Miami, right? 1728 01:14:21,105 --> 01:14:21,345 Yeah. 1729 01:14:21,345 --> 01:14:22,785 They sent him to inner Miami. 1730 01:14:23,190 --> 01:14:27,570 You know, when Gonzalo Iua was putting up numbers, now Joseph 1731 01:14:27,570 --> 01:14:28,769 has to put up those same numbers. 1732 01:14:28,769 --> 01:14:30,090 He just never done that before. 1733 01:14:30,600 --> 01:14:31,620 I mean, we'll see what happens. 1734 01:14:31,625 --> 01:14:31,890 So, 1735 01:14:32,850 --> 01:14:34,440 T-Bird: oh g free agency, 1736 01:14:34,500 --> 01:14:35,370 Other Guy: it's just, it's, it's 1737 01:14:35,375 --> 01:14:35,910 Commercial: everywhere. 1738 01:14:35,970 --> 01:14:37,500 Well, I got a question about that, so. 1739 01:14:37,500 --> 01:14:38,040 Well it 1740 01:14:38,040 --> 01:14:40,290 T-Bird: wasn't, I'm scarring mo it wasn't free agency with him. 1741 01:14:40,650 --> 01:14:42,351 Well, they moved him out, but, but 1742 01:14:43,160 --> 01:14:45,030 Commercial: it kinda, it kinda makes sense though, doesn't it? 1743 01:14:45,030 --> 01:14:46,590 Wasn't it kind of necessary though? 1744 01:14:46,680 --> 01:14:47,580 Yeah, he wasn't gonna 1745 01:14:47,580 --> 01:14:48,570 Producer Dex: end up coming back. 1746 01:14:48,630 --> 01:14:49,140 Um, 1747 01:14:49,170 --> 01:14:51,090 T-Bird: so he was causing some problems in, in 1748 01:14:51,090 --> 01:14:54,120 Producer Dex: their, uh, you know what, I'm gonna go ahead and uh, 1749 01:14:54,390 --> 01:14:55,800 and play devil's advocate on that. 1750 01:14:55,800 --> 01:14:58,019 I don't think he was necessarily causing the problems. 1751 01:14:58,050 --> 01:15:03,150 I think he got caught up in it and there was a lot of passion going on and I 1752 01:15:03,390 --> 01:15:09,090 don't, I think when you have an immovable force and going with an immovable object, 1753 01:15:09,090 --> 01:15:11,250 that's, that's just, it is what it is. 1754 01:15:11,340 --> 01:15:11,760 I see it 1755 01:15:11,760 --> 01:15:12,390 T-Bird: in their eye. 1756 01:15:12,480 --> 01:15:13,260 Commercial: I got a question. 1757 01:15:13,265 --> 01:15:17,519 Yeah, you, or you can ask this cuz we're just coming off of the World Cup where 1758 01:15:17,580 --> 01:15:19,710 the world was watching some fantastic. 1759 01:15:20,775 --> 01:15:21,525 Football. 1760 01:15:21,675 --> 01:15:21,765 Mm-hmm. 1761 01:15:22,065 --> 01:15:28,305 . So will this be a missed opportunity for this market if Atlanta United 1762 01:15:28,309 --> 01:15:31,875 can't put out a product that at least is going to entice the casual fan? 1763 01:15:33,675 --> 01:15:38,085 No, because I thought about watching after wa long, you know, 1764 01:15:38,090 --> 01:15:41,745 if they can get in bpe, yo, I'll be a sick of season ticket holder. 1765 01:15:41,775 --> 01:15:42,375 But, but the 1766 01:15:42,375 --> 01:15:44,115 T-Bird: star that you know has left. 1767 01:15:44,505 --> 01:15:44,715 Yeah, 1768 01:15:44,715 --> 01:15:45,105 Commercial: right. 1769 01:15:45,105 --> 01:15:45,555 You know? 1770 01:15:45,555 --> 01:15:46,215 Exactly. 1771 01:15:46,345 --> 01:15:46,695 So, 1772 01:15:46,695 --> 01:15:49,095 Producer Dex: so I mean, I mean, if, if they were gonna get somebody 1773 01:15:49,425 --> 01:15:52,635 liking Mbae, he'll be like 39 years old before, I don't mind. 1774 01:15:52,695 --> 01:15:53,085 That's fine. 1775 01:15:53,265 --> 01:15:53,985 I'm, I'm sure. 1776 01:15:53,985 --> 01:15:56,295 But he got another 10 years before that happens. 1777 01:15:56,474 --> 01:15:58,275 bo say he'll still be his pride. 1778 01:15:59,565 --> 01:16:03,974 Other Guy: Yeah, I think the MLS can, can capitalize and needs to, but as far 1779 01:16:03,974 --> 01:16:07,905 as the, you know, the United, you know what, I don't know if there's, I don't 1780 01:16:07,905 --> 01:16:09,375 know if there's enough that they can do. 1781 01:16:09,375 --> 01:16:09,575 Uh, 1782 01:16:10,095 --> 01:16:13,005 Producer Dex: I mean if you look at it, the cities, the, the teams that are 1783 01:16:13,005 --> 01:16:17,135 getting the, all the big name players are always gonna be la, New York, Miami. 1784 01:16:18,130 --> 01:16:21,045 because their population, what they're known 1785 01:16:21,045 --> 01:16:21,555 for. 1786 01:16:22,125 --> 01:16:24,615 Commercial: Well, I'm just saying Atlanta United had to have 1787 01:16:24,615 --> 01:16:26,405 some great seed money mm-hmm. 1788 01:16:26,525 --> 01:16:29,145 to put together a team and win it all the first year. 1789 01:16:29,150 --> 01:16:29,715 Right, right, 1790 01:16:29,720 --> 01:16:30,005 T-Bird: right, right. 1791 01:16:30,145 --> 01:16:32,025 Producer Dex: Nah, not really. 1792 01:16:32,025 --> 01:16:37,755 I mean, the level of talent with the MLS is, is the teams are fairly, even 1793 01:16:38,505 --> 01:16:42,255 for the most part, I'm not gonna say, you know, just the way it's set up, 1794 01:16:42,315 --> 01:16:44,925 that, that there can be basically a different winner every year. 1795 01:16:45,165 --> 01:16:52,395 It's not like LGA or um, li where it's always gonna be, what'd you say Li? 1796 01:16:52,725 --> 01:16:53,955 That's the French one. 1797 01:16:54,015 --> 01:16:56,745 It's always gonna be P S G, you know, in France. 1798 01:16:56,745 --> 01:16:59,265 And then whoever gets the honor of losing to them. 1799 01:16:59,445 --> 01:16:59,745 T-Bird: Yeah. 1800 01:16:59,805 --> 01:17:03,885 Well you gotta remember, you lost a key person in office in Darren Eels too, 1801 01:17:04,605 --> 01:17:08,265 and Darren Eels knew European soccer. 1802 01:17:08,775 --> 01:17:09,225 Oh yeah. 1803 01:17:09,225 --> 01:17:09,385 Yeah. 1804 01:17:09,390 --> 01:17:12,615 And, and he was an asset to Atlanta United office. 1805 01:17:12,615 --> 01:17:15,195 So you gonna have to replace what is, what is this, this 1806 01:17:15,195 --> 01:17:17,295 Other Guy: guy dropping some soccer knowledge 1807 01:17:17,295 --> 01:17:18,705 T-Bird: over here, here, I'm just telling you. 1808 01:17:18,885 --> 01:17:21,045 I, I mean, I, I listen to all of it. 1809 01:17:21,045 --> 01:17:21,345 It's, 1810 01:17:21,375 --> 01:17:24,825 Other Guy: it's kind of like all the teams are afraid to even, you've got one or two 1811 01:17:24,825 --> 01:17:29,445 superstars that, that can just dominate the league and, and you, you know, it 1812 01:17:29,445 --> 01:17:31,125 kind of switches around and rotates. 1813 01:17:31,155 --> 01:17:34,425 It's kind of like, you know, high school basketball or, or, or any kind 1814 01:17:34,430 --> 01:17:36,345 of high school sport, more or less. 1815 01:17:36,585 --> 01:17:39,285 It's kind of similar, but one or two superstars is gonna carry 1816 01:17:39,644 --> 01:17:40,305 Commercial: the, the majority. 1817 01:17:40,310 --> 01:17:43,455 It's very unlikely that Atlanta United will get a superstar this season. 1818 01:17:43,605 --> 01:17:44,355 Very unlikely. 1819 01:17:44,355 --> 01:17:45,105 Free agency 1820 01:17:45,285 --> 01:17:45,644 Other Guy: you gotta 1821 01:17:45,644 --> 01:17:45,945 Producer Dex: get, yeah. 1822 01:17:45,945 --> 01:17:47,265 Free agency or home grown. 1823 01:17:47,265 --> 01:17:47,805 That's the only way 1824 01:17:47,805 --> 01:17:48,105 Commercial: it's gonna happen. 1825 01:17:48,105 --> 01:17:49,665 You try to GoFundMe maybe to, 1826 01:17:49,725 --> 01:17:56,805 T-Bird: one thing that I did like is when they played that stadium, especially in 1827 01:17:56,810 --> 01:17:59,445 our year that we won that stadium, it was 1828 01:17:59,445 --> 01:17:59,955 Commercial: wild. 1829 01:17:59,960 --> 01:18:00,675 Was packed. 1830 01:18:00,675 --> 01:18:01,515 Yeah, it was. 1831 01:18:01,515 --> 01:18:03,075 And the atmosphere was just, oh. 1832 01:18:04,304 --> 01:18:04,605 Just 1833 01:18:05,445 --> 01:18:06,375 Producer Dex: economics doesn't work. 1834 01:18:06,375 --> 01:18:06,884 You know what I mean? 1835 01:18:06,889 --> 01:18:10,544 You can take a whole family there for less than a hundred bucks and feed them, 1836 01:18:10,605 --> 01:18:12,285 T-Bird: you know, like it was great. 1837 01:18:12,290 --> 01:18:15,405 And yeah, boy, if we had, if the Falcons had that, how do 1838 01:18:15,405 --> 01:18:16,214 Commercial: it, what we be here we go. 1839 01:18:17,355 --> 01:18:18,464 We're gonna make that a drinking game. 1840 01:18:18,464 --> 01:18:20,504 Every time you mention the Falcons, we're gonna take a shot. 1841 01:18:20,804 --> 01:18:21,375 Oh man. 1842 01:18:21,375 --> 01:18:22,634 I wouldn't be able to drive, ever. 1843 01:18:22,724 --> 01:18:23,445 Right, right. 1844 01:18:24,165 --> 01:18:25,934 Mo, that was low. 1845 01:18:26,565 --> 01:18:27,285 Just saying. 1846 01:18:28,035 --> 01:18:29,054 Final thoughts gentlemen. 1847 01:18:29,834 --> 01:18:31,575 Other Guy: Coach Prime bringing in number one. 1848 01:18:31,580 --> 01:18:32,655 Uh, going back 1849 01:18:32,655 --> 01:18:34,155 T-Bird: in the Yes sir. 1850 01:18:34,455 --> 01:18:35,775 We go, yes sir. 1851 01:18:35,894 --> 01:18:38,535 Hey, feeling his brand. 1852 01:18:39,375 --> 01:18:41,535 Commercial: I see some nta, a sanctions coming in 1853 01:18:41,535 --> 01:18:41,625 the 1854 01:18:41,625 --> 01:18:41,955 T-Bird: future. 1855 01:18:42,044 --> 01:18:44,325 Other Guy: I don't, that's his only selling point is the brand. 1856 01:18:44,714 --> 01:18:45,344 Is his brand. 1857 01:18:45,365 --> 01:18:45,884 We ain't going, 1858 01:18:46,094 --> 01:18:47,264 T-Bird: we ain't gonna even get into that. 1859 01:18:47,269 --> 01:18:51,495 We go, cause y'all know Uhoh that Coach Prime bringing in 1860 01:18:51,500 --> 01:18:52,514 people like everybody else. 1861 01:18:52,544 --> 01:18:54,125 Did you see him on Theoh 1862 01:18:54,125 --> 01:18:54,405 Commercial: Coach? 1863 01:18:54,554 --> 01:18:57,405 He's like the, him, you know, wrap up music from. 1864 01:18:57,780 --> 01:19:00,330 You know, did you really replay somebody? 1865 01:19:00,339 --> 01:19:01,019 I better have a choice. 1866 01:19:01,019 --> 01:19:03,330 It wasn't made . Somebody 1867 01:19:03,330 --> 01:19:06,599 T-Bird: better put some grease on O G's face cause I'm fitting the right 1868 01:19:06,599 --> 01:19:07,230 Commercial: book in. 1869 01:19:07,230 --> 01:19:07,860 Here we go. 1870 01:19:07,919 --> 01:19:09,690 All right y'all, thanks for joining us this see evening. 1871 01:19:09,690 --> 01:19:10,769 We'll see you again next week. 1872 01:19:10,775 --> 01:19:11,910 Same time, same place. 1873 01:19:11,915 --> 01:19:12,660 Good evening gentlemen. 1874 01:19:12,665 --> 01:19:13,379 Peace. 1875 01:19:13,559 --> 01:19:13,950 Oh 1876 01:19:13,955 --> 01:19:15,150 Producer Dex: hey, uh, rest in peace. 1877 01:19:15,150 --> 01:19:15,959 Intern walks.